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Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by cyberax on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:18AM (#42458623)
Ethyl alcohol is _cheap_. You literally need just a bunch of sugar, yeast, and a still. Straightforward, low-tech, and safe.

Isopropyl alcohol needs to be synthesized from acetone, which itself is synthesized.

Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by kleton on Thursday December 19, 2024 @03:08AM (#42459447)
Acetone–butanol–ethanol fermentation was itself a critical WWI technology, as cordite required acetone. That fermentation process requires only sugars and an acetobutylicum strain. The first president of Israel developed this process.
Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by pfdietz on Thursday December 19, 2024 @11:32AM (#42463082)
Yes, Chaim Weizmann.

When was this supplanted by the cumene process for making propylene (which is then converted to acetone)?

Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by lupusreal on Thursday December 19, 2024 @05:28AM (#42460170)
I don't know how the balance broke down during WW2, but synthesis of ethanol from ethylene in more recent times is economically competitive with fermentation. So for instance, fermentation of sugarcane is easily cheaper in Brazil, but in America most industrial ethanol came from synthesis until corn subsidies were introduced in the 80s which made fermentation cheaper than synthesis.
Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by pfdietz on Thursday December 19, 2024 @11:34AM (#42463090)
The US has ample ethane now (it's abundant in much fracked gas) so I suspect this synthesized ethanol would be superior here without the corn subsidies.
Re:Torpedo juice: Legendary, illegal WWII liquor drunk in Al... by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday December 19, 2024 @06:39PM (#42466908)
A 50lb bag of cracked corn is about $12 at Tractor Supply. I've considered making my own moonshine just for the hell of it. Might actually get around to it one of these days.