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Re:Updates to H-1B by ritcgab on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @02:05PM (#42453694)
Guy who born with natural citizenship is too privileged to imagine how hard it is to get a green card.
Re:Updates to H-1B by lubujackson on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @04:15PM (#42455315)
Great comeback, except you completely ignore the point (its purpose is not meant to be a backdoor) and attack him for... being an American?

Instead of telling everyone else to check their privilege, maybe check your expectations. The world doesn't owe anyone anything. Claiming your desires are everyone else's problem is a deeply self-centered way to view the world.

Re:Updates to H-1B by ritcgab on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @06:44PM (#42456767)
H-1B is dual intent by definition, so it is not a backdoor. Any sane person who knows how green card application works understands that it is objectively hard, if not the hardest in the whole world.

> Instead of telling everyone else to check their privilege, maybe check your expectations.

Without such an expectation, who would pay tens of thousands a year to enroll in a random U.S. college, only to be told that there is absolutely no way they can work legally there?

Re:Updates to H-1B by Permit on Thursday December 19, 2024 @08:14AM (#42461105)
> Great comeback, except you completely ignore the point (its purpose is not meant to be a backdoor)

Ironically there is no point in talking about much of this stuff (immigration requirements, priority dates, dual intent visas etc.) with most Americans because they do not understand it.

There is no point in engaging with someone who thinks H1B is a back door because they don’t know what they’re talking about. Other Americans can’t recognize this in the original comment because it’s not something they spend any time reading about (because it doesn’t actually matter to them).

The real backdoor visas would be something like a TN.

Re:Updates to H-1B by carlosjobim on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @02:39PM (#42454120)
Everybody is born with natural citizenship.
Re:Updates to H-1B by ritcgab on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:08PM (#42454494)
Stephen Miller does not approve this.
Re:Updates to H-1B by petesergeant on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:04PM (#42454441)
You should take a moment to look up what “stateless” means
Re:Updates to H-1B by carlosjobim on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:23PM (#42454673)
God forbid somebody says that every dog has four legs and a hacker hears it...
Re:Updates to H-1B by happytoexplain on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @04:25PM (#42455444)
This is a hideous tone that will do nothing but antagonize proud citizens and sour voters on the idea of generosity.

Thoughtful discourse is predicated first on basic respect.

Re:Updates to H-1B by sunshowers on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @06:23PM (#42456635)
American natural-born citizens do not understand that they are the beneficiaries of an extraordinary amount of sheer dumb luck.

The veil of ignorance is a bit cliche these days, but try applying it here.

Re:Updates to H-1B by contagiousflow on Thursday December 19, 2024 @09:14AM (#42461555)
> generosity

I'm sure you think of your own citizenship as charity as well...

Re:Updates to H-1B by JSteph22 on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @07:09PM (#42456917)
>how hard it is to get a green card

It should be hard.

Re:Updates to H-1B by ragazzina on Thursday December 19, 2024 @02:36PM (#42464942)
Was it hard to get your citizenship?
Re:Updates to H-1B by jeffhuys on Thursday December 19, 2024 @07:08AM (#42460672)
Psst, the societal opinion on this has shifted.

We shouldn’t feel bad about protecting ourselves.

Re:Updates to H-1B by ritcgab on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:50PM (#42463956)
Protecting yourselves from what?