Silver amulet is the oldest evidence of Christianity north of the Alps

Re:Silver amulet is the oldest evidence of Christianity nort... by sickofparadox on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @12:30PM (#42452653)

>This was speaking to the dead, and expecting a response, and thus a sin in some way I am not sure of.

Catholics believe that people in heaven are not dead, and can hear your prayers for intercession (this is the case with most protestants too). Jesus said, after all, that he is the God of the living not the God of the dead[1], and that those in heaven will be reborn in a new and everlasting life. Catholics further believe that the saints in heaven can pray on your behalf and are, in fact, excited to do so, and possibly better at it than anyone on earth.

[1] https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2022%3A32

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Re:Silver amulet is the oldest evidence of Christianity nort... by kasey_junk on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @08:13PM (#42457314)

I’d be careful describing a belief to “most” Protestants. Many, many Protestants don’t believe any soul will enter Heaven until the last judgement.

Many more believe that only God (and Jesus if they don’t believe they are the same) can exist in heaven and the promise of Christianity is to make Earth like Heaven. Some of those groups believe that prayers to the dead, including to Mary or the saints, is therefore forbidden or an overt act of devil worship or paganism.

Even more controversial is the idea that the dead can intercede on your earthly behalf. That would be seen as pretty outside the view of many very mainline Protestant denominations.

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Re:Silver amulet is the oldest evidence of Christianity nort... by NemoNobody on Thursday December 19, 2024 @01:54AM (#42459088)

The dead are dead - they cannot hear those prayers. God may be able to but if he hears our laments to our lost loved ones, even if we ask them to help us, I cannot conceive how he could anything but pity us, he loves us after all.

People punish - Jesus loves. That's a super easy way to see the lies from the truth

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Re:Silver amulet is the oldest evidence of Christianity nort... by sickofparadox on Thursday December 19, 2024 @06:03AM (#42460335)

If the dead are dead than the promise of Christ is a lie. Unworkable theologically.

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