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Re:Haskell vs. Ada vs. C++ vs. an Experiment in Software Pro... by blacksqr on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @09:30AM (#42450695)
What a shame.

When I started out in the 1990s professional programmers generally made a point of learning new languages, to acquire skills and expose themselves to alternate ways of thinking.

I remember a boss in the early 2ks who was teaching himself OCaml in his spare time just because.

Re:Haskell vs. Ada vs. C++ vs. an Experiment in Software Pro... by dleslie on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @09:49AM (#42450841)
In the mid-to-late naughts there arose the diploma mills, offering short programmes to turn students into silicon valley hopefuls. It fundamentally shifted the culture of software development.
Re:Haskell vs. Ada vs. C++ vs. an Experiment in Software Pro... by klodolph on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:45PM (#42454953)
There was also a dire need for more programmers. I think the industry would take what it could get.
Re:Haskell vs. Ada vs. C++ vs. an Experiment in Software Pro... by ookdatnog on Thursday December 19, 2024 @05:14AM (#42460112)
I love learning interesting niche languages and also wish it was still the case that learning interesting languages purely out of interest was common.

But I'm afraid that the network effects that favor large languages are only getting stronger over time. It's very hard to convince someone to learn a new language if they're used to finding the answer to almost every question they can think of on Stack Overflow and find free libraries for almost any task on GitHub. Your niche language will have neither of those things. Large languages will continue to consolidate and become impossible to displace, even if a new language pops up that is strictly better in terms of design.

Entrenched programming languages have reached the point where, I believe, they will never be displaced. So there are certain obvious mistakes, such as every object in Java being nullable, that we will have to live with in perpetuity.