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Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by latentcall on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:44AM (#42428566)
Who’s the adversary? China? China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that.

To me it seems China made a superior app that the American youth wanted to use and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned.

Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by kelnos on Monday December 16, 2024 @03:49AM (#42429185)
> China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that.

I (a US citizen) do think of the Chinese government as an adversary. I believe many Americans would agree with me. (See, I can make the same assertion without evidence.)

> To me it seems China made a superior app that the American youth wanted to use and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned.

Sure, that's certainly part of it. It's economic protectionism. Which, honestly, when it's protectionism against a nation with a fairly closed market, where US companies and capital have much less access (and access comes with strict restrictions and censorship requirements) than Chinese companies (and their government), I'm having a hard time getting all up in arms about it.

Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by t0lo on Monday December 16, 2024 @02:11AM (#42428714)
China was supporting russian bot accounts in the recent us election. Sounds pretty adversarial to me
Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by badestrand on Monday December 16, 2024 @06:25AM (#42430079)
Any evidence and/or links for this? My Google search didn't result in anything substantial.
Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by lm28469 on Monday December 16, 2024 @05:49AM (#42429869)
China is not my enemy hence everything china does is good and everything my government does against any chinese action is bad

Sheesh, I'll never understand people smart enough to see their local government as bad but dumb enough to idolise every other foreign power

Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by latentcall on Monday December 16, 2024 @04:18PM (#42435538)
I don’t idolize any government national or foreign, that would be silly.
Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by 71bw on Monday December 16, 2024 @07:09AM (#42430305)
>and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned.

Yes, definitely has nothing to do with the fact the Chinese are using it to inject their propaganda and way of view into the mainstream by, for example, massively spreading lies about the Israel-Hamas debacle which, without TikTok, nobody would care about (as it should be).

Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by greenie_beans on Monday December 16, 2024 @08:12AM (#42430659)
i'm not on tiktok and have never seen a tiktok about this issue but i care about it. same with a lot of my friends who are not on tiktok. same with hn god paul graham.
Re:US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove Tik... by latentcall on Monday December 16, 2024 @04:20PM (#42435561)
What lies about Israel-Hamas? Pro-Palestinian support isn’t a Chinese psyop, people can see the videos coming from Gaza plainly and make up their own opinion.

I never bought the idea that the American people are super gun ho about Israel. My family are all conservative Midwest folks and they don’t see why we give them so much money when Americans at home suffer.

It’s not just the “left” that thinks this.