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Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by necubi on Saturday December 14, 2024 @03:55PM (#42419375)
LD50 is (an estimate) of the 50th percentile (i.e., 50% chance of dying), but that doesn't mean it's linear. It _certainly_ doesn't mean that 1% of people will die at 2% of that value, which I think is what you're implying.

The lowest example of a lethal dose I can find in the literature is 57mg/kg. Caffeine overdoses are so rare that we don't know the true distribution, but it's clearly not the case that millions people will die from a few coffees.

Your other comment calculated the lethal dose as *a gallon of espresso*. That's like 125 shots. That is not a remotely normal amount of coffee. It would take multiple people over an hour to make that much espresso for you.

Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by aphantastic on Saturday December 14, 2024 @04:07PM (#42419449)
That’s not what I was implying at all I have no clue how you arrived at that. I’m saying an LD1 does exist – it’s the dose that would be fatal to 1% of a population (and further a LD0.1 and 0.0001 exist). These doses are lower than the LD50, fatal to millions, and approach what some would consider normal. For instance: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna759716
Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by aphantastic on Saturday December 14, 2024 @05:05PM (#42419790)
The cooldown period built into HN is there for a reason: taking time to reflect on messages and do any necessary background research makes for better discussions than impulsively saying whatever is top of mind. I suggest you use this time to understand what an LD50 actually is and how the concept generalizes.

(cc @dang, seeing this growing trend of people misunderstanding the missing reply button and evading the timer via edits, perhaps UI affordances could be developed to better introduce folks to the feature?)