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Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by panabee on Saturday December 14, 2024 @03:36PM (#42419272)
This is a good question and encapsulates the challenges of food and drug regulation.

Yes and no. At certain concentrations, many safe compounds become dangerous in humans.

Even at tiny doses, foods like peanuts may be safe for the vast majority yet lethal for a minority.

Given how devilishly heterogeneous the human race is, the ideal solution provides safety testing at the individual level, not the population level [0]. But this is years away until computational and biological breakthroughs arrive.

[0] Population level is a misnomer. FDA trial sizes below.

Phase 1: 20 to 100 people

Phase 2: up to several hundred people

Phase 3: 300 to 3,000 people

https://www.fda.gov/patients/drug-development-process/step-3...

Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by EA-3167 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @04:00PM (#42419397)
Keep in mind that very commonly accepted safe substances such as carrots or water also become lethal at high enough doses, for all humans. It's often stated, and it can be tiring to hear, but the dose really does make the poison.
Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by pas on Saturday December 14, 2024 @05:25PM (#42419910)
And context matters. Folks with this or that kidney problems can die from basically nothing while the median bloke doesn't even notice that their piss is a tad darker.
Re:Humans are unreliable models of mouse disease by EA-3167 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @09:15PM (#42420973)
That's an excellent point, and of course individuals can have pretty stark differences in metabolism, with the alcohol flush reaction being a great and highly visible example.