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Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by ethbr1 on Friday December 13, 2024 @11:44AM (#42410105)
Underappreciated reality.

Because customer-insurer relationships are the only side of the healthcare system that most people see, they're oblivious to what are actually pass-through insurer-provider issues.

As you said, the reality is that insurers operate with pretty reasonable margins and incredibly meager per-claim overhead costs. They're stuck trying to make 2 + 1 = 2.

If the finger should be pointed at root causes in the US health system, it should be at:

   - Providers overbilling (particular in certain specialties)

   - Medical schools, for charging too much and under-expanding capacity

   - The federal government/Congress, for failing to expand residency funding to increase supply (especially in generalist provider categories)
Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by relaxing on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:04PM (#42410265)
What’s the source of limited supply of doctors meme? Is there a good rundown somewhere?

Because anecdotally, among my friends, I’ve never known someone to not make it through the system to practicing medicine who wanted to, but I do know several who persevered despite being real idiots. I don’t see how opening the pool wider would lead to better care.

Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by rawgabbit on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:50PM (#42410673)
https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/aamc-report-reinfor...

TLDR 1. Society is getting older demographically.

2. Physicians are getting older demographically and have stopped working.

3. Many rural areas and minorities are already underserved.

Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by fny on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:52PM (#42410700)
1. There is a cap on the number of doctors that the US can churn out since Medicare funds most of their training. That number is 140,000. This inherently limits supply. This is the biggest issue.[0]

2. There are limited spots in certain residency programs due to how competitive they are. Ergo those specialties are artificially more lucrative. Dermatology is a good example.

3. Becoming a doctor is temporally arduous: 11 to 15 years! Why the hell do people need to spend four years of time and money on a bachelor's degree instead of entering a medical program directly?

4. Becoming a doctor is financially arduous. You will be in debt for four years of undergrad, then four years of medical school, and then you'll be paid garbage for 3-7 years of residency. High interest rates exacerbate this.

5. Residency is hell.

6. Working in a hospital is often hell. Burn out is very real.

7. There are many, many professions which provide a far better standard of living.

[0]: https://www.aamc.org/news/press-releases/new-aamc-report-sho...

Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by nradov on Friday December 13, 2024 @08:45PM (#42413953)
Agreed. There are a few schools now offering accelerated Baccalaureate-MD programs in as little as 6 years so expanding those to more schools would be a relatively simple way to cut education costs.

https://students-residents.aamc.org/medical-school-admission...

We can also expand access to affordable primary care by shifting routine services to physician assistants and nurse practitioners. Physicians should be reserved for more complex or higher risk cases.

Re:Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denial... by relaxing on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:09AM (#42423014)
None of that answers the question.

You’ve restated the old joke, “That restaurant is terrible —- the food tastes bad and the portions are so small!”