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Re:The Cold Email Handbook by jmduke on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @08:39PM (#42395232)
I think the definition of spam necessitates some level of bulk sending, and I struggle to consider ~fifty emails over the course of two or three years "bulk".
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by handfuloflight on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @08:41PM (#42395247)
So if the same qualitative factors were kept for your outreach, just an increase in the quantitative equation means it's spam? One discrete instance is not spam but the combination of all of them makes the whole spam, when certain thresholds are reached? If so, how do we define those thresholds?
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by jmduke on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @08:49PM (#42395286)
It's an interesting question! To me, an (or perhaps _the_) obvious threshold is once the emails become automated.
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by handfuloflight on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @08:54PM (#42395316)
Why does that factor make it spam?
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by MrVandemar on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @10:00PM (#42395776)
I'm quite sure you can do all sorts of mental gymnastics to avoid thinking of yourself as a spammer.

Here's my basic criteria for spam:

1. It's unsolicited.

2. It's trying to sell something / exploit people.

In my grading scale I classify you as a spammer. A "bespoke" spammer perhaps, but I still do not want to waste time reading anything you send me, or waste time even clicking "mark as spam", unless I ask for it. You would be stealing my mental CPU cycles (which are few and precious).

Re:The Cold Email Handbook by handfuloflight on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @11:46PM (#42396311)
> 2. It's trying to sell something / exploit people.

Are these synonymous?

Re:The Cold Email Handbook by MrVandemar on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @11:50PM (#42396323)
No. I'm drawing a distinction between “I want to sell you something” and “click this link to a website that strongly resembles, but is not, YourBank to transfer all your money to us.”
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Thursday December 12, 2024 @01:10AM (#42396666)
I think / is usually reserved for synonyms. Should just use the word "or" if it's this or that.
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by MrVandemar on Tuesday December 17, 2024 @07:44AM (#42440915)
Yes / No
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by jamesfinlayson on Thursday December 12, 2024 @01:11AM (#42396675)
I remember an old boss launching a product this way - he read the spam law and while I don't remember the specifics, sending an unsolicited email to people whose emails you obtained legitimately was okay if you weren't explicitly selling something (which I think is very open to interpretation).
Re:The Cold Email Handbook by handfuloflight on Thursday December 12, 2024 @11:40AM (#42400699)
> was okay if you weren't explicitly selling something.

The CAN-SPAM Act does not forbid explicitly selling something. Rather it requires an opt-out mechanism and identifiers for who the sender is.

Re:The Cold Email Handbook by jamesfinlayson on Thursday December 12, 2024 @05:19PM (#42404012)
Yeah okay - obviously varies by country although I think the opt-out mechanism is pretty universal.