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Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by weinzierl on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:26PM (#42390986)
The point is that Leptos became awesome even with no money.
Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by jkelleyrtp on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:31PM (#42391066)
Dioxus was awesome for a long time without money :)

As my little side project, we pioneered html-templates, wasm-bindgen string interning, macro hot-reloading, macro auto-formatting, multi-platform builds, native HTML/css rendering, and a number of other "awesome" things before raising a dollar.

Users want a guarantee the project isn't going to disappear tomorrow and sadly 100 bucks a month on open collective isn't a great guarantee.

Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by weinzierl on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:42PM (#42391206)
I am sorry, but I have seen projects going down too often once VC capital got involved to be positive about it.

VC capital is just one indicator. Maybe you can answer:

Do you require a CLA or copyright assignment? I don't see it on the GitHub page but then again other projects (like MongoDB) have hidden theirs pretty well.

How many of the contributors are directly payed for their contributions?

Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by jkelleyrtp on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:59PM (#42391412)
In, my opinion it's good for ambitious projects to have a stable financial foundation. What negative things one project does because of venture capital does not mean another will.

There's no CLA. Dioxus is MIT/Apache-2 licensed.

> How many of the contributors are directly payed for their contributions?

I unfortunately feel like you're asking this in bad faith. Our team is very small, we're very lean, and we have funding sources that aren't just venture. We also have a very active community and people are building new libraries and becoming dioxus contributors every day.

https://github.com/DioxusLabs/dioxus/releases/tag/v0.6.0 (scroll to contributors)

Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by weinzierl on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @03:15PM (#42392392)
I am sorry if this came across the wrong way. I am not trying to upset you with these questions.

If you say your team is small I understand that it is not the majority of contributors that are on your payroll and that is good enough for me to see Dioxus as a real community project.

Thanks for your answers.

Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by apitman on Thursday December 12, 2024 @09:47PM (#42405552)
Complexity can be almost as effective a moat as a CLA. If they went closed I doubt anyone would start an effective fork.
Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by davidatbu on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @06:07PM (#42394068)
As a leptos user, I just wanted to say that I appreciate everything you have outlined here (and more) that you have done for the Rust/wasm ecosystem (especially since other people here seem to be less appreciative of your contributions because you've raised VC funds, and I feel like as an open source maintainer, you probably hear much more from 'dissatisfied customers' than the satisfied ones).

I'm particularly excited about your research on actually hot-reloading Rust binary code. I hope it leads to reduced incremental compilation times (IIUC).

Re:Dioxus 0.6 – Crossplatform apps with Rust by sedatk on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @02:39PM (#42391895)
No. It just means some people gifted the project the same amount of money by volunteering.

I don’t see why volunteer dev work would be more valuable. It’s the same work. Those people have the same living costs.