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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by eitally on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:33PM (#42382385)
Why would we not? If I didn't control for demographics, I probably wouldn't have my kids in our local public schools (in the wealthiest county <? - Santa Clara> in the country) because the Great Schools ratings show only mid-pack achievement. If I do control for demographics, though, I see the white & Asian kids are doing fine and it's the rest who are struggling, primarily for a combination of socioeconomic & immigration reasons. Given this, I'm comfortable sending my kids to our neighborhood schools because I'm in the fortunate demographic where kids will do well no matter where you put them.

It's the same for any educational achievement measures, including PISA. Kids from households with two parents who are working professionals and college educated will do fine most of the time, and kids without those privileges will struggle most of the time.

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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by Jensson on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @07:44PM (#42383431)
Every country has immigrants though, you can't just selectively remove them in one country and not the others, that is not an apples to apples comparison.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by 3836293648 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @06:42PM (#42382973)
It kinda makes sense when looking at local schools to send your children to. It makes no sense when comparing countries in a major international study, that's just massaging data to make yourself look good
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by drivebyhooting on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @06:31PM (#42382903)
Are you not concerned with the negative socialization?

Anecdote: I still have a chipped front tooth from “the other demographic” throwing a ball at my face in public high school PE.

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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by kenjackson on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @08:03PM (#42383574)
Either you have a better sense of humor than I do, or that anecdote is especially not useful.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by optymizer on Friday December 13, 2024 @09:13AM (#42408554)
> Why would we not?

Because it's a random axis to split the data on and you only do it for the US, which makes zero sense to do when comparing entire countries.

What about Tunisian immigrants in France? Maybe they'd be at the very top? What about Whites in all countries? Maybe White kids across the globe are better than White kids in the US, which would put the US at the bottom?

We cannot conclude that "US education is amongst the top in the world" from the chart you presented.

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