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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by BeetleB on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:19PM (#42381632)
> and immigrant children in America do better than their counterparts in their countries of origin, they don’t do as well as the modal group of white Americans

East and South Asian immigrants probably beg to differ.

Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by xyzzyz on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:37PM (#42381839)
Of course you’re right that children of US Asian immigrants are ahead even of US whites, I mention this in my different comment in this thread. However, since there are few of them relative to other groups, they don’t affect the distribution much, so I didn’t mention this for the sake of clarity, as it didn’t detract from my main point.
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by aprilthird2021 on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @02:21AM (#42385614)
There are not few of them relative to other groups. In fact there are more of them than several, more native groups, like Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, and Mixed Race people
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by samatman on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:50PM (#42381985)
Well no, East and South Asian immigrants to the United States do tend to outperform the median in their country of origin. Acutely, in the case of South Asians.

So that's half of the statement, the other half is that those two groups are not a large fraction of the total immigrant population. As such, they affect the conclusion, in the sense that removing them from consideration would make the difference in question starker, but they do not change it, because it's a statement about a whole of which they are but a part.

Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by anon291 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:31PM (#42381773)
We don't exist because it's politically inconvenient to remember.