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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by xyzzyz on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @03:59PM (#42381396)
The image in this thread you linked has the information about the data source in the bottom right corner.
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by aerhardt on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:11PM (#42381538)
The source he cites is himself, other than the PISA data.

I cannot examine the entire dataset right now, but from reading the questionnaires I cannot find a single question on race. The only resembling question is on the birthplace of the parents [1], but you cannot infer the race from that, can you? How would you separate blacks then, most of whom would probably have American parents?

How much do you trust the author of this data?

[1] https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/data/datasets/pisa/...

Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by xyzzyz on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:12PM (#42382179)
I have known Cremieux for a long time, and trust him a great deal when it comes to handling and presenting data. In any case, I don’t know what standards you’d find satisfactory. He made the graph out of data he listed on the graph. Anyone can go and verity its accuracy. It being materially wrong would be devastating to his reputation. Thus, if you still don’t trust it, you should just do your own leg work to verify it, instead of asking others, whom you probably don’t trust any more than you trust Cremieux, to do it. Anything more would be unusual and unreasonable, even formal academic peer review does not involve verifying that the graphs are accurately representing underlying data.