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Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by AnimalMuppet on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:30PM (#42373093)
Something about "innocent until proven guilty". If you haven't been proven guilty, you are presumed innocent.

And if you aren't going to extend that to others, why should you expect it be extended to you? Do you want someone to, completely apart from the courts, to judge your guilt, and act as your executioner? Because that's the problem. Someone decides that you are guilty, is unhappy with the lack of action by the legal system, and takes it upon themself to bring about "justice".

So, are you guilty of something? Anything? In anyone's eyes?

Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by giraffe_lady on Monday December 09, 2024 @11:10PM (#42373647)
> If you haven't been proven guilty, you are presumed innocent.

That's a sensible procedural rule for courts to follow, but I'm not a court. I have no legal or moral responsibility to presume someone is innocent. I exercise my own judgement on the matter.

I agree we don't want vigilante executions in nyc to become more normal than they already are. But don't get it twisted and think that means we are obligated to believe, or act as if we believe, that someone is innocent.

Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by ithkuil on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:20AM (#42375190)
You're free to privately judge anyone anyway you want.

As long as you don't impede their freedom to live their own life. We have laws that prevent you from harming other people. Not only you cannot murder them but there are also laws around stalking, defamation etc.

Nobody is forcing us to like the people who we think are terrible human beings.

Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by wahnfrieden on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @07:19PM (#42394699)
The point is that we do not have laws that prevent the CEO from harming many people - instead the legal frameworks supported his deadly actions
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by ithkuil on Friday December 13, 2024 @06:14AM (#42407611)
Perhaps the problem is the fact that healthcare is privatized in the first place?
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by wahnfrieden on Friday December 13, 2024 @04:29PM (#42412555)
Yes or controlled through ultimately undemocratic powers and without free associative non coercive means (people are able to coordinate on work and employ leadership without requiring a hierarchy of controllers). We all pay our time and labor into these services but it’s proxied through money and abstracted away