Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by fortran77 on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:07PM
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In the world of logic puzzles, it is understood that a "liar" never makes a true statement, and that "vacuously true" statements are false.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by dingaling on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:01PM
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Which seems to be an untenable premise.
"I never make a true statement" says the liar.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by latexr on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:23PM
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> "I never make a true statement" says the liar.
I’ve never seen one of this puzzles phrasing it like that. With good reason, that would break the puzzle.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by JadeNB on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:10PM
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> In the world of logic puzzles, it is understood that a "liar" never makes a true statement, and that "vacuously true" statements are false.
I agree with the first stipulation, but, outside of Lewis Carroll's puzzles, I think that the second isn't true. For example, I believe you'll find just the opposite in Raymond Smullyan's books.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by pleurotus on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:31PM
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> Not to mention that a liar doesn't necessarily have to mean someone who tells a falsehood in every single statement.
FTA: >Note: this question was originally set in a maths exam, so the answer assumes some basic assumptions about formal logic. A liar is someone who only says false statements.
I think it's pretty clear how on definitions
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by copypasterepeat on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:59PM
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Ah I see that now, thanks. It was under the ad banner so I missed it first time around.
Not to mention that a liar doesn't necessarily have to mean someone who tells a falsehood in every single statement. It could just mean someone who frequently tells falsehoods. Or, more deviously, someone who wants to cause maximum uncertainty in his listeners, in which case some mix of true and false statements would probably be the way to go.