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Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by Timothee on Thursday July 12, 2012 @03:02PM (#4236101)
But I don't know what "zoom" means in the context of a window. And the inconsistencies of my experiences with various apps didn't make it clear either. (e.g. the infamous mini-player for iTunes)

As for Shift-Click I tried it with Chrome and I thought you had made my day. However it didn't do anything different on Messages, nor Safari: it just stretched the window vertically. In my short survey of currently open apps, half were stretching vertically while the other was doing fullscreen. (be it Shift-click or plain click) Only Chrome acts differently.

Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by mkaltenecker on Thursday July 12, 2012 @06:03PM (#4237098)
Zoom tries to remove the scroll bars. It makes the window big enough so that the scroll bars disappear. If there are no scrollbars and the main content just automatically resizes with the window (e.g. in Aperture) it is equivalent to the maximize button.

The biggest problem with that is that developers make it work inconsistently.

Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by steveh73 on Thursday July 12, 2012 @10:15PM (#4237897)
Browse around iTunes until you find a track that doesn't quite fit horizontally. Click the "zoom" button, to make the window big enough. Oh wait, it doesn't.

If by "developers" you mean "Apple" then yes. I never use the "zoom" button because it exhibits apparently random behaviour.

Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by jpxxx on Thursday July 12, 2012 @11:25PM (#4238077)
Agreed. It's one of those "we'll figure this out later" things from the late 90's without any real programmatic constraints that led to a mishmash of pointless and unexpected behavior.

I personally can't come up with a good reason not to just remove the green ball entirely.

Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by Volpe on Friday July 13, 2012 @02:20AM (#4238485)
So the issue is iTunes, not the green button? And admittedly itunes behaviour is very well known, it's hardly surprising.
Re:Fullscreen in Mountain Lion still renders second display ... by mkaltenecker on Friday July 13, 2012 @12:03AM (#4238170)
I completely agree with you. Don’t be so aggressive, be nice!

Apple should remove the zoom button. It’s not necessary, more confusing than anything.