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Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by tptacek on Sunday December 08, 2024 @02:39AM (#42355620)
I would love for someone to explain to me why there is a cheering section for Bashar al-Assad. I understand what Hayat Tahrir al-Sham is. I can read a Wikipedia page. HTS: not great. Got it. But why am I supposed to believe the Syrian Ba'athists are (sorry, were) a fulcrum of peace in west Asia? Someone give me the pitch. Is it really all a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner?
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by Arainach on Sunday December 08, 2024 @02:42AM (#42355634)
Russian propaganda operatives are active on every social network including HN.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by arcticbull on Sunday December 08, 2024 @02:43AM (#42355640)
As someone who's been to Syria, I can't place it either. There's no way this is worse that what came before -- especially since the status quo was propped up by Russia. This is at worst neutral and has a full spectrum of better potential outcomes. Sometimes, occasionally, any change is good. This is one of those times.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by viccis on Sunday December 08, 2024 @03:11AM (#42355754)
Do you think someone pointing out how bad the uprising in Libya turned out is in "a cheering section" for Gaddafi?

You do not have to love or even like Assad's regime to be concerned about an organization with past ties to Al-Qaeda and ISIS taking the reins. Some people in here have a lot of faith in their newly claimed moderate stance. I do not think that a group like that changes its colors over night, but we shall see.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by tptacek on Sunday December 08, 2024 @03:15AM (#42355781)
No. Assad has a cheering section. I'd like to hear its pitch. If you're just uneasy about what's happening, I'm not asking anything of you. That just makes sense. Boring! I want to hear from the people who think the Ba'athists were a good thing. That's interesting.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by csomar on Sunday December 08, 2024 @02:48AM (#42355660)
Given how it played in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and to a less degree Tunisia, these revolutions have all been more catastrophic than the status quo.
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by orwin on Sunday December 08, 2024 @03:46AM (#42355902)
The reason Lybia turned to shit was French and US secret services battling through interposed assassinations and supporting people with army but not popular support.

Us secret services seems to have won (at least Hillary's leaked emails make it seems US services got what they wanted), but since their candidate was really bad,the country split (not saying that what the French did was any better by any mean, but at least their initial candidate,pre assassination, had grassroot support.)

Still, the original Sin was French, so they're the main culprit of what happened in Lybia. Especially since it's possible that the war was started to remove witnesses of illegal campaigns fonds transferred from Gaddafi to Sarkozy, but we only have circumstancial evidence. Mostly because Gaddafi died shortly after being captured alive in the hand of french-supported rebels, his finance minister unluckily drowned himself in Vienna, and one witness retracted himself after a weird assassination attempt.

Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by coffeebeqn on Sunday December 08, 2024 @03:13AM (#42355773)
At best under Assad Syria is stuck in a shitty stasis. Sometimes a risky roll is better than things being stuck at terrible until the end of time - even if it’s “stable” which it clearly wasn’t
Re:Syrian government falls in end to 50-year rule of Assad f... by tibbydudeza on Sunday December 08, 2024 @02:41AM (#42355626)
Puzzling indeed - it takes all kinds it seems. Having lived in a facist police state it seems these coddled people have no idea.