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Re:OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' claus... by CamperBob2 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @11:14AM (#42350674)
Point out what he did that couldn't be done by Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, or Mark Zuckerburg, or in fact that was done by Jeff Bezos with his own company.

"If you were going to start Facebook, you'd have started Facebook." - apocryphally credited to Zuckerberg.

You do know that Bezos started his rocket company before SpaceX, right? If he could beat SpaceX, why hasn't he?

As for sex bots, that'll happen soon enough, be patient. At this point there is nothing but a few incremental advances in robotics and material science standing in the way of implementing the bots from Garland's Ex Machina or Spielberg's AI. The software side is basically working now.

Re:OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' claus... by ToucanLoucan on Saturday December 07, 2024 @11:23AM (#42350753)
> "If you were going to start Facebook, you'd have started Facebook." - apocryphally credited to Zuckerberg.

No, I wouldn't, because I have a soul and I don't want to light the mental health of the entire world on fire no matter how much money it makes me.

> You do know that Bezos started his rocket company before SpaceX, right? If he could beat SpaceX, why hasn't he?

I don't know what "beat" means in this context nor am I particularly interested in billionare's dick measuring contests which are funded in part by the taxpayer.

My point isn't that someone did it. I'm sick to death of Elon's mythmaking and I'm going to shout into the void every time it comes up until the day I die that that man hasn't done shit besides write checks. Say what you will about Fuckerburg, and I've said plenty, but at least he actually wrote some of Facebook's code.

Re:OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' claus... by luro on Sunday December 08, 2024 @10:34AM (#42357700)
There is an art to check writing, I’ll remind you.
Re:OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' claus... by blueprint on Saturday December 07, 2024 @11:34AM (#42350831)
> If he could beat SpaceX, why hasn't he?

Because Elon lied to humanity about their mission, in order to secure his position. Bezos didn't.

Can't you find any other examples of this in history? Yeah, there are a lot of them, and it's probably why humanity are effectively still slaves and stuck on this planet, years behind where we should be.

Time to wake up. Humanity can't blame anyone else anymore.

As an aside... the argument that space is less hospitable than Earth doesn't work anymore when "smart people" only say that only to avoid doing the prep work they'd need to avoid an Earth that can and will become imminently inhospitable due to up to ten different scenarios.

But by all means, guys, keep ignoring reality because you think you know better.

How quickly humans forget, and how amazingly deep their ignorance is of what only recently transpired.

Re:OpenAI seeks to unlock investment by ditching 'AGI' claus... by mrandish on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:16PM (#42351136)
> Because Elon lied to humanity about their mission, in order to secure his position.

Setting aside feelings about Elon and whether he misled anyone about the mission of SpaceX, saying "Our mission is to put humans on Mars" didn't help secure any position, except some popularity with the Mars Society, sci-fi fans and nerds. It certainly didn't help SpaceX get financial support from big money hedge funds, governments, Wall Street analysts or NASA administrators.

If anything, setting a goal of what was then only a nerd fever dream, and which even today has no clear path to profitability, hurt SpaceX's early position substantially. The only thing that eventually turned around that "screwball billionaire blowing his money on a vanity project" perception was developing a launch system able to deliver orbital payloads at a dramatically lower cost per pound than anyone else.

As to whether Elon ever misled anyone about SpaceX's Mars mission, anyone who listened to his in-depth interviews from early on heard him say that getting there would first require making SpaceX a highly profitable commercial enterprise because Elon didn't have enough money himself, NASA payloads alone wouldn't be enough and government couldn't be counted on invest a meaningful portion of GDP toward a goal many people didn't value. Personally, Elon's Mars talk turned me off too. While a permanent Mars colony is inspirational for sci-fi fans and Singularity types, I think it's a distraction. There are much more productive things to focus on first if the goal is to accelerate humans becoming a space-faring species. The hardest part is getting large amounts of mass out of this planet's gravity well economically. To then immediately go drop that astronomically expensive mass down another planet's gravity well seems kind of... unproductive?