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Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by raverbashing on Thursday December 05, 2024 @06:16AM (#42327045)
Except there's not really a choice right?

Family homes in city centers (in the US) are either very expensive or bad neighborhoods

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by supplied_demand on Thursday December 05, 2024 @08:36AM (#42328099)
Family homes in the best suburbs are also very expensive, even after being subsidize by the broader tax base. There are lots of places to live in cities that aren't the "city center" just like there are types of family homes that aren't single-family-homes.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by ls612 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:02AM (#42329402)
This line about suburbs being subsidized is a lie that keeps getting repeated. If I live in a suburb and commute downtown to work my income counts towards the city GDP and tax base but I would be receiving government services from the suburbs. This isn’t a subsidy it’s providing people the services they need where they live instead of where they work.
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by supplied_demand on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:09PM (#42330121)
It isn't about where you live or work, it is about the cost of providing services. When homes are farther apart, the infrastructure is physically more spread out. This creates higher costs to build and (especially) maintain roads, electricity, water, sewage, etc.

I am going off of the study described here [0]. I'm happy to view anything you have to provide which proves it is a lie.

[0] https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2023/7/6/stop-subsidizin...

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by Jensson on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:24AM (#42329613)
> my income counts towards the city GDP and tax base

You pay taxes were you work instead of were you live? That is very unusual, typically you pay income taxes where you live. I don't see how paying taxes were you work could even work, what pays for your school or roads if all the money goes to another area?

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by vel0city on Thursday December 05, 2024 @11:56AM (#42329961)
> typically you pay income taxes where you live

Some bigger US cities have a city income tax which is applied regardless of where you live.

I had family living in NJ and working in NYC. They paid NYC income taxes, NY income taxes, NJ income taxes, and federal income taxes.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by throwaway2037 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:20PM (#42330237)
You had me until NY State taxes were included. As I understand, only NY City taxes are required if you work in the City, but live in New Jersey.

    > Some bigger US cities have a city income tax
As I know, there is only one in the US that has city specific income tax: NY City. Are there others?
Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by vel0city on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:33PM (#42330364)
https://www.tax.ny.gov/pit/file/nonresidents.htm

> If you are a New York State nonresident you must file Form IT-203, Nonresident and Part-Year Resident Income Tax Return, if you meet any of the following conditions:

> . You are a nonresident with New York source income and your New York adjusted gross income Federal amount column (Form IT-203, line 31) exceeds your New York standard deduction.

IANAL, this isn't tax advice, I'm going by what I'm reading and what I was told by people who lived and worked there, but looking at this if you have an income made from working a job in the state of NY and ended up with more than $21k of income you need to file for NY state income taxes.

There are a number of cities with income taxes. Detroit, Baltimore, Columbus, Cleveland, Louisville, Toledo, and many more. Of those I bothered looking in to, they apply if you work in that city regardless of wherever you live.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by supplied_demand on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:11PM (#42330146)
==Some bigger US cities have a city income tax==

The vast majority do not.