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Re:Certificate Authorities and the Fragility of Internet Safety by lxgr on Thursday December 05, 2024 @12:06AM (#42325156)
> Browsers all run their own root program.

Do they?

I believe Firefox allows OS-level root CAs in addition to their built-in ones (not sure if that includes OS-provided ones or is limited to local administrator/user installed ones).

Chrome used to defer to the OS-provided one entirely, but it looks like it now has its own store and ignores OS-provided CAs (but does accept admin-provided ones).

Hm, the more I look at this... It seems like they do, these days :) At least the large ones; I doubt that smaller browsers such as Opera, Brave etc. have their own trusted root program.

Re:Certificate Authorities and the Fragility of Internet Safety by nickf on Thursday December 05, 2024 @03:20AM (#42326104)
Opera do. Cisco have their own. Oracle do (for Java, primarily) but tend not to participate in CA/B Forum much. Brave did previously have something of a root program - not sure if they still do or if they track Moz and/or Chromium. Quihoo 360 (China) have a root program, too. There are certainly other 'smaller' ones.
Re:Certificate Authorities and the Fragility of Internet Safety by lxgr on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:03AM (#42328875)
Interesting, although I do still suspect that the trend is to just piggy back onto one of the large well-respected ones.

For example, I do believe that Opera used to have their own (while they were still doing well), but they seem to be using Chrome these days [1]:

> Opera considers certificates presented trustworthy only when they either have a certificate chain that can be validated up to a Root CA certificate included in the Chrome Root Store or a certificate explicitly configured to be trusted by the user.

[1] https://security.opera.com/en/webpki-trust-anchors/