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Re:Why Not Mars (2023) by natch on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @11:08AM (#42318844)
Your point was well put and would have landed well five years ago, but today the unstoppable (short of global, civilization-ending catastrophe) march toward ubiquitous smart robots refutes that this is a chain of unlikely events.

The built in incentives for technology to improve will continue after we get smart robots. This will change things.

In a couple of decades it will be very hard to argue that they aren’t human 2.0 or <n>.0. And if we still insist, they might decide for us. I don’t fervently hope for this but I am very curious how it plays out.

The opposite view to yours is valid: Us not arriving at human 2.0 would only be possible by a long chain of improbable events. And in this view those who think we will continue as we are (cancer-susceptible meat bags) are the ones taking a quasi religious position.

Re:Why Not Mars (2023) by lproven on Thursday December 05, 2024 @05:11AM (#42326693)
No, it's not, and your point continues your faith-based belief.

I am 57. I've been working in this industry for 36 years. The computer world is no closer to machine intelligence today than it was in 1988 when I walked into my first job. It's no closer than in 1981 when I touched my first microcomputer.

LLM bots are not in any way intelligent, but they do expose a type of flawed non-analytical thinking in humans that is easily persuaded that a machine is intelligent if it can emit coherent sentences.

I think you are totally wrong and that this will be abundantly apparent in a decade, perhaps in half a decade. The next few years will usher in the latest AI winter, just as they did a generation ago and a generation before that.

Re:Why Not Mars (2023) by lproven on Thursday December 05, 2024 @06:23AM (#42327088)
P.S.

> (short of global, civilization-ending catastrophe)

We are well on our way to that, and almost certainly past the point of no return.

https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to...

Re:Why Not Mars (2023) by natch on Friday December 06, 2024 @12:47PM (#42342119)
Good link, terrifying read, thank you.