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Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by adventured on Monday December 02, 2024 @09:39AM (#42296647)
China and the EU would never allow an Nvidia Intel merger, not under any scenario the US would find acceptable.

They'll barely allow Nvidia to acquire anybody at this point, no matter how small. See recent EU response to Run:ai. Intel would be considered 100x worse.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by FredPret on Monday December 02, 2024 @09:46AM (#42296696)
Why would China and the EU have input on a US merger?
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by Cumpiler69 on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:08AM (#42296913)
Because Intel, AMD, etc have offices in EU and China, for sales, distribution and also R&D. If you intend to operate in those markets you need to comply with local regulations.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by adra on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:08AM (#42296923)
The same reason as anything else. If the merger goes ahead with opposition from foreign markets, those markets can impose import tariffs or outright bans. Smaller markets may be ones these combined companies are willing to piss off, but not Europe. Their opposition is defacto a deal killer.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by corimaith on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:21AM (#42297058)
They literally don't any serious homegrown alternative though, they'd be effectively forfeiting the AI race
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by mnau on Monday December 02, 2024 @05:56PM (#42301244)
China doesn't care. They are banned from buying western AI HW or making their own AI HW at TSMC/Samsung. They are pouring hundreds of billions to the semiconductor ecosystem.

Huawei is trying to make establish domestic Ascend/MindSpore ecosystem, but they are limited by the SMIC process (~7nm). Amount of defects is allegedly rather high, but they are the only "official" game in town (other than smuggled NVIDIA cards or outsourced datacenters in Middle East).

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by corimaith on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @03:50AM (#42304209)
Then the point about China trying to block a Nvidia merger doesn't really sense if they will be going their own path anyways. It would exist to try to harm Nvidia before their homegrown alternatives ramp up.
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by mnau on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @06:17AM (#42305001)
Nvidia is only one side of merger. The other is Intel. Intel does sell processors in China. Only AI is banned, not generic CPU (except HPC).
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by Wytwwww on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:17AM (#42297012)
> Why

Well they obviously would..

Also EU has promised various significant subsidies to Intel. They obviously has fabs in Ireland and building one in Germany and perhaps even Poland..

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by maeil on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:03AM (#42296862)
If this is a rhetorical question, just make your point instead.

If not, look up e.g. Microsoft 's purchase of Activision, both US companies.

Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by tiahura on Monday December 02, 2024 @10:03AM (#42296859)
Do they want to sell pentiums in China or EU?
Re:Intel Announces Retirement of CEO Pat Gelsinger by lmm on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @08:18PM (#42313593)
They wouldn't, but companies at this scale are global, regardless of where their nominal headquarters or stock listing is.