Re:Jeff Dean Responds to EDA Industry about AlphaChip
by raverbashing on Sunday December 01, 2024 @01:15AM
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Honestly this does not compute
> None of these "AI" tools have yet demonstrated the ability to classify "This is datapath", "This is array logic", "This is random logic".
Sounds like a good objective, one that could be added to training parameters. Or maybe it isn't needed (AI can 'understand' some concepts without explicitly tagging)
> If I have the compute power to run EDA tools with a couple of different random seeds, at least one run will likely be a couple percentage points better.
Then do it?! How long does it actually take to run? I know EDA tools creators are bad at some kinds of code optimization (and yes, it's hard) but let's say for a company like Intel, if it takes 10 days to rerun a chip to get 1% better, that sounds like a worthy tradeoff.
> I put this snake oil in the same category as "financial advice"--if it worked, they wouldn't be sharing it and would simply be printing money by taking advantage of it.
Yeah I don't think you understood the problem here. Good financial advice is about balancing risks and returns.
> None of these "AI" tools have yet demonstrated the ability to classify "This is datapath", "This is array logic", "This is random logic".
Sounds like a good objective, one that could be added to training parameters. Or maybe it isn't needed (AI can 'understand' some concepts without explicitly tagging)
> If I have the compute power to run EDA tools with a couple of different random seeds, at least one run will likely be a couple percentage points better.
Then do it?! How long does it actually take to run? I know EDA tools creators are bad at some kinds of code optimization (and yes, it's hard) but let's say for a company like Intel, if it takes 10 days to rerun a chip to get 1% better, that sounds like a worthy tradeoff.
> I put this snake oil in the same category as "financial advice"--if it worked, they wouldn't be sharing it and would simply be printing money by taking advantage of it.
Yeah I don't think you understood the problem here. Good financial advice is about balancing risks and returns.