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Re:The 'Return to Office' Lies by brians on Saturday November 23, 2024 @01:51PM (#42222869)
It’s a management limit. I’m not sure it’s a failing. I’m a pretty good manager and I’ve worked with some great ones. All of us are better with access to frequent informal communication, shared meals, and walking.

This isn’t about punishment: it’s about how we organize ourselves if we want to create together. I write LARPs collaboratively, and I play tabletop RPGs, too—and those are more fun and more productive and creative in person.

Re:The 'Return to Office' Lies by christhecaribou on Saturday November 23, 2024 @01:56PM (#42222923)
You have zero data to support that. It’s just your gut. Forgive me for not believing in your gut.
Re:The 'Return to Office' Lies by susodapop on Saturday November 23, 2024 @04:45PM (#42224196)
> All of us are better with access to frequent informal communication, shared meals, and walking.

Back when I was healthy, I would have agreed with this. Nowadays, chronic illness forestalls shared meals or casual walks. Informal communication doesn't need to be over the top of a cubicle wall. It can be as simple as switching from Slack to Signal/Whatsapp/iMessage.

As with most things, cohesive dynamics are achieved by working with the tools and limitations that _exist_ rather than assuming everyone can relate in the same way. If I worked on a team where all the above were socially expected, I'd feel excluded and probably leave.

It's perfectly fine to acknowledge that _you_ require those walks and meals to lead effectively. And I'm sure that your non-handicapped team members appreciate it as well.

The rest of us, however, still have a lot to contribute and shouldn't be implicitly (yes) punished for not fitting into that mold. We're good engineers and good colleagues.