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Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by PittleyDunkin on Thursday November 21, 2024 @07:00AM (#42203453)
> We need viable treaties limiting development beyond 400 or 500km and we need them ten years ago.

Basically every other interest on earth is going to see this as the west exploiting space then pulling the ladder up after them. It's the same reason why hoping developing countries will stop using coal is ridiculous. We need to foot the bill to clean up after ourselves or people will just ignore us and do what they see they need to do regardless.

Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by MichaelZuo on Thursday November 21, 2024 @07:51AM (#42203845)
Yeah unless all the orbits under 500 km are also annulled and put up for negotiation too, most countries would never accept it.

And even then the negotiation process will take decades so that means no LEO satellites available for anyone for several decades.

Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by schiffern on Thursday November 21, 2024 @11:06AM (#42205678)

  > all the orbits under 500 km are also annulled and put up for negotiation
Unnecessary. There's plenty of space (no pun intended) to operate at those altitudes, even with existing and planned satellite constellations.

The real issue is regulatory, not technical. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42199498

Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by MichaelZuo on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:41PM (#42206680)
An HN user’s opinion doesn’t matter in the context of how countries decide in international diplomacy…?

How does this make sense? Other countries could clearly decide however they like, because they don’t need to come to the negotiating table.

Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by schiffern on Friday November 22, 2024 @08:21PM (#42218630)
It's not my opinion. The ITU permitting system described in my link is the (negotiated) international system that exists today. If you're suggesting it might be re-negotiated to allow latecomers to build constellations below 500 km, then we agree.

However your idea of "annulling" permits already given out isn't necessary, or politically feasible, or even desirable.

"Annulling" is just one HN user's jealous destruction fantasy.

Re:New Calculation Finds we are close to the Kessler Syndrom... by MichaelZuo on Sunday November 24, 2024 @02:06PM (#42229672)
Are you confusing me with someone else, or have you gone deranged?

I was the one who implied the status quo, i.e. countries putting things into orbit way above 500km and nobody stopping them, is likely to prevail… with even the next best alternative very unlikely to happen.