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Re:Joint Declaration by Ministers of Germany, France, Poland... by ivan_gammel on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @02:52PM (#42187391)
> Since 2012 its IT giants collapsed

You are talking about different Russia then. Yandex, VK, Sber, Wilderries have firm grip over Russian digital economy and apparently heavily investing in new technology, including AI. Thanks to sanctions they have to worry even less about competition (AliExpress and Chinese electronics are notable exceptions). Banks and telecoms are doing well too.

> In 10-15 years the education will falter because of the today's brain drain

I don’t see it. The education system on average is degrading quickly, but it’s the inequality rising, not loss of capabilities. Top tier schools remain very competitive globally — better than e.g. in most of Europe including Germany. Top tier universities remain very competitive in STEM. This is not path to irrelevance, but rather to a specialization.

Re:Joint Declaration by Ministers of Germany, France, Poland... by lostmsu on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @05:19PM (#42188716)
> grip over Russian digital economy

It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind.

> investing in new technology, including AI

If it was still 2010 I could see Yandex having a model somewhere near the top of https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard but today I'd be surprised if they can compete at all.

> Top tier universities remain very competitive in STEM. This is not path to irrelevance, but rather to a specialization.

I was talking about 10-15 years from now. When the old profs have to retire, who will teach if the majority of students are gone abroad? Of my MSU CS class basically everyone left, definitely the ones who could teach. And that was waaay before 2022 happened.

Re:Joint Declaration by Ministers of Germany, France, Poland... by ivan_gammel on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @05:44PM (#42188874)
>It is essentially forced use, on the large scale they are getting farther and farther behind.

You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind. Care to elaborate? Any evidence?

Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance.

Re:Joint Declaration by Ministers of Germany, France, Poland... by lostmsu on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:15PM (#42189089)
> You were just saying they collapsed, now they are simply falling behind

Lol, they did collapse, to the boundaries of Russia. Yandex was worldwide, VK had ambition getting there.

> Yes, they achieved what their Western counterparts only dream of - unchecked market dominance.

Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha. This is so laughable. You made me cry almost. Tell that to Apple. Or NVidia. Or Amazon. Or Google.

I feel like if you are not a bot, you are in some kind of dream or delusion world. Would these obvious counterexamples even move your position?