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Re:Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming acc... by Retric on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:46AM (#42182403)
Calculating Biofuels today is irrelevant when we haven’t removed fossil fuels from the rest of our economy. They are just a farming subsidy not an environmental panacea. Long term they can’t be a net carbon producer because that carbon would need to be endlessly produced from nothing.

As to lithium being consumed, it’s still around we don’t actually need to recycle it to be available to humanity in the future. We’re talking hundreds to thousands of years from now before mining becomes an issue, current economic issues are largely meaningless. Unlike oil, these are the early days of the lithium economy. Making a big battery pile somewhere is perfectly reasonable form of recycling.

Re:Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming acc... by vlovich123 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @02:06PM (#42186970)
> Long term they can’t be a net carbon producer because that carbon would need to be endlessly produced from nothing

As noted in the MIT article:

> Since most natural ecosystems absorb and store carbon, while farmland in active use tends to produce it, this land use change can create more climate-warming pollution

Basically the land is changed from a carbon store to a carbon producer for biomass meaning you're no longer sequestering the carbon which is where you get extra carbon in the ecosystem even if you're not having any carbon in the transportation & production.

Re:Humans have caused 1.5 °C of long-term global warming acc... by Retric on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @04:15PM (#42188165)
Farmland and forests are approaching different equilibrium points. It’s not an infinite supply or sink.

Much of the world was covered in forests for literally millions of years. Dig down a deep as roots go, count up the carbon in a given acre, and divide by a few million and you get essentially 0/year as the long term rate.

Transitions between forests and farmland basically store or release a fixed quantity per acre though it’s a slow process for deep root systems.