Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a local-like, POSIX cloud fs

Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by wongarsu on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:41PM (#42177892)

You pay a datacenter to put it in a rack and add connect power and uplinks, then treat it like a big ec2 instance (minus the built-in firewall). Now you just need someone who knows how to secure an ec2 instance and run your preferred software there (with failover and stuff).

If you run a single-digit number of servers and replace them every 5 years you will probably never get a hardware failure. If you're unlucky and it still happens get someone to diagnose what's wrong, ship replacement parts to the data center and pay their tech to install them in your server.

Bare metal at scale is difficult. A small number of bare metal servers is easy. If your needs are average enough you can even just rent them so you don't have capital costs and aren't responsible for fixing hardware issues.

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by swyx on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @08:22AM (#42183127)

sounds like an opportunity for someone (you?) to offer an abstraction slightly above bare metal to do the stuff you said to do, charging higher than bare metal but lower than the other stuff. how much daylight is there between those prices?

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by nthh on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @07:10PM (#42189476)

I'm sure there are companies in this space providing private clouds on bare metal, I wonder how that would be to operate at scale though.

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by tempest_ on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @10:00AM (#42184135)

We run on our own stuff at our shop.

Some things that are hidden in the cloud providers cost are redundant networking, redundant internet connection, redundant disks.

Likely still cheaper than the cloud obviously but you will need to stomach down time for that stuff if something breaks.

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by kingnothing on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:21AM (#42185150)

Are you going to risk your entire business over "probably never get a hardware failure" that, if it hits, might result in days of downtime to resolve? I wouldn't.

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by nine_k on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:44PM (#42189295)

Just pay 2x for the hardware and have a hot standby, 1990s-style. Practice switching between the boxes every month or so; should be imperceptible for the customers and a nearly non-event for the ops.

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Re:Launch HN: Regatta Storage (YC F24) – Turn S3 into a loca... by kingnothing on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @12:32PM (#42196263)

How many hours of labor does that take every month you failover? What about hot hard drive spares? Do you want networking redundancy? How about data backups? Second set of hot servers in another physical data center?

All of that costs money and time. You're probably better off using cloud hosting and focusing on your unique offering than having that expertise and coordination in house.

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