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Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by namaria on Monday November 18, 2024 @03:46PM (#42176808)
The locus of fast development will always develop superiority narratives. The fact is that there will always be a locus of concentrated development and it's not because it has a special culture.
Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by FredPret on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:02PM (#42176995)
> The locus of fast development will always develop superiority narratives.

True

> The fact is that there will always be a locus of concentrated development

Also true

> and it's not because it has a special culture.

I don't think this is always true. Why can't there be cultures that are more likely to serve as a locus of fast development? Sure, there are geographic and climatic factors, but there are also cultural factors.

Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by namaria on Monday November 18, 2024 @04:11PM (#42177086)
Where would this cultural specialty sit? We're all the same naked apes everywhere. Culture develops on the resources available. The human particles are too homogeneous for a group of special human behaviors to cause development. It is much more likely that the overall configuration of economic forces to cause the storms of extra value falling somewhere to give rise to the development and following cultural assertiveness.

Kinda like the rain forest. It's the global rain patterns that cause them. It's not that the rain forests have a special rain attracting power.

Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by FredPret on Monday November 18, 2024 @05:23PM (#42177760)
It’s the opposite of a rain forest in every interesting way.

Development springs from us, it doesn’t appear out of the sky like rain.

Having personally experienced the humans in various places, I’m astonished at how differently people see and engage with the world. The difference in outcome, however, is all too predictable.

Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by namaria on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @07:40AM (#42193420)
No, it's not special people that develop civilization. Civilization development is a higher order phenomenon that doesn't depend on personalities. The Whig narrative that special personalities drive development is a post hoc explanation with no basis in evidence.
Re:Bhutan, after prioritizing happiness, now faces an existe... by jacobr1 on Friday November 22, 2024 @11:51AM (#42215377)
The narratives around how such cultural traits evolve is not clear, and I agree are unlikely to be the post-hoc rationalization of "Great Men" setting them up.

Yet there do seem to be some traits that enable more "success" in at least something close to industrial, market-oriented societies. For example having a high-trust or risk-tolerant cultural values seems to have some success correlations.