Re:A Case Against the Placebo Effect
by zeroonetwothree on Saturday November 16, 2024 @12:00PM
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For some psychological conditions there is also an effect from merely participating in a study. For example, if you have depression then the human interaction and feeling that someone cares about you has some therapeutic effect.
Re:A Case Against the Placebo Effect
by zigzag312 on Saturday November 16, 2024 @12:14PM
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What about a "reverse" effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_death
Re:A Case Against the Placebo Effect
by luesterklemme on Saturday November 16, 2024 @12:26PM
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The "reverse" effect would be a Nocebo. Which also exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo
Thanks, that's a more accurate reverse effect to placebo.
I was thinking in a wider sense, negative effect of mind on health instead of positive. It's intriguing to what extent it's speculated the mind is able to affect the physical health.
There is scientific consensus that placebos have a subjective effect on symptoms, argued to be some unknown internal/mental effect. This is very widely held in the medical sciences community, and has more broad acceptance than most things held as a so-called consensus. It is not and has never been a lay person thing.
e.g. An article like https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/the-power-... is not kooky or controversial, or the creation of a lay person. It's the accepted understanding of what's happening -- at least what is seemingly happening -- as viewed by medical experts.
As an aside, while placebo does come from Latin for "to please", you have it backwards. Placebos are to please either the patient or the participant, giving them a feeling that they're being treated/studied.
Wait what? I’ve never heard this being the scientific consensus. It’s more like the lay person’s view. I think that many scientists agree that the placebo effect is primarily a combination of regression to the mean and participant’s desire to please the experimenter (ie the literal definition of “placebo”).