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Re:The price of shutting down coal power, and what would be ... by axpvms on Saturday November 16, 2024 @07:00AM (#42155975)
What conditioning? I've always heard it described as the "least bad" form of government. It definitely beats having a communist dictatorship though.
Re:The price of shutting down coal power, and what would be ... by ben_w on Saturday November 16, 2024 @07:22AM (#42156054)
"Vox Populi, Vox Dei": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_Populi%2C_Vox_Dei

While I personally think of democracy as "the worst except for everything else we've tried", there's plenty who speak as if it's tautologically the best.

Re:The price of shutting down coal power, and what would be ... by jlkuester7 on Saturday November 16, 2024 @08:56AM (#42156457)
In the historical context I would see "Vox Populi, Vox Dei" as intentionally juxtaposed against the "Divine Right of Kings" (the leading political philosophy in Europe for the last few thousand years).

I think there is a TON of interesting discussion to be had on the best ways to _implement_ democracy, but locating the source of political power directly in the people who are governed seems like a pretty solid idea to me... I have not been able to come up with anything better.

Re:The price of shutting down coal power, and what would be ... by quintushoratius on Saturday November 16, 2024 @07:40AM (#42156122)
The problem with giving people choices is that sometimes they make the wrong choice.
Re:The price of shutting down coal power, and what would be ... by vacuity on Sunday November 17, 2024 @03:49PM (#42167105)
Indeed. Democracy is "least bad" because it at least allows people to choose, but don't be surprised if they make the wrong choice. Evidently one problem outweighs the other, and for advocates for democracy it's that the latter issue is outweighed (the former is that the people have no choice, this is people making the wrong choice). If men were angels, a nominally totalitarian government could be absolutely ideal.