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Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by userbinator on Friday November 15, 2024 @07:12PM (#42152869)
"Contains" is highly regulated ("Ingredients" is not)

Then maybe it should be Ingredients that is highly regulated as the source of truth? "Contains" is effectively redundant and incomplete.

Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by Eisenstein on Friday November 15, 2024 @08:14PM (#42153287)
If we remove the cream from milk, is it now two different ingredients: low-fat milk and cream? What if they are combined again, is it milk?

Take that example and apply it to every single ingredient used in food and cosmetics and supplements. Write that regulation please.

Or we can stick to the one that only deals with like, 5 - 10 things.

Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by ignormies on Friday November 15, 2024 @08:59PM (#42153470)
Oftentimes "ingredients" will be an incredibly long list. As someone that needs to pay attention to ingredients on food for a severe tree nut allergy, it's so so so much easier to quickly parse a two-item "contains" section than a 40 item "ingredients" section.

I've made mistakes on food that has _just_ "ingredients", missing entries while scanning at the grocery store.

Unfortunately, "contains" isn't required, and its location isn't always obvious. imo it should flatly be always required and always in a standardized layout/location (e.g. in a clear to read box).

Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by userbinator on Friday November 15, 2024 @09:10PM (#42153514)
it's so so so much easier to quickly parse a two-item "contains" section than a 40 item "ingredients" section

Imagine if everyone who has an uncommon allergy wanted to have their allergen listed in "contains" too. You'll just end up with two "ingredients" lists instead. It's insanely stupid and redundant.

Edit: care to give a counterargument?

Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by tzs on Friday November 15, 2024 @09:35PM (#42153641)
I've seen enough comments from you on technical computing subjects over the last decade to know that you have a firm grasp of concepts such as caching and other related ways to take advantage of usage patterns to optimize things.

Just as caches are useful in computing even if they are too small to hold everything so too is a contains section that only lists the top 9 allergens. That covers 90% of food allergies in the US.

Re:Nearly 80k pounds of butter recalled because of missing l... by xocnad on Friday November 15, 2024 @09:35PM (#42153642)
This is a strawman. It seems obvious the number of items covered is a balance between the size of the affected population and the size of the list. I use "it seems obvious" intentionally.