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Re:Security Is a Useless Controls Problem by convolvatron on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:34PM (#42111067)
in the spirit of this article, can anyone explain why the Linux host-level firewall is a useful control?
Re:Security Is a Useless Controls Problem by lmm on Monday November 11, 2024 @07:28PM (#42111711)
Do you mean "why is running a firewall on an individual host useful"? Single-application hosts are quite common, and sadly some applications do not have adequate authentication built-in.

Do you mean "why does Linux allow firewalling based on the source host"? Linux has a flexible routing policy system that can be used to implement useful controls, host is just one of the available fields, it's not meant to be used for trusting on a per-host basis.

Re:Security Is a Useless Controls Problem by deathanatos on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:37PM (#42111085)
I think it depends a bit on circumstance, but I think I'd start with "way too much software binds to 0.0.0.0 by default", "way too much software lacks decent authn/z out of the box, possibly has no authn/z out of the box", and "developers are too lazy to change the defaults".

So it ends up on the network, unprotected.

Re:Security Is a Useless Controls Problem by l0b0 on Monday November 11, 2024 @07:13PM (#42111615)
It's a catch-all in case any single service is badly configured. This often happens while people are fiddling around trying to configure a new service, which means they are at the most vulnerable.
Re:Security Is a Useless Controls Problem by dogman144 on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:42PM (#42111114)
There's always an edge case, gotta know the various sec controls to slice the target risk outcome, vs target outcome == specific implementation. Security hires who are challenging employees are the latter types.

Edge case and your answer, in spirit - public-facing server, can't have a HW firewall in-line, can't do ACLs for some reason, can't have EDR on it.... at least put on a Linux host-level FW and hope for the best.