News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:'It's not close' – Israel committing genocide concludes W... by ejang0 on Sunday November 10, 2024 @08:04PM (#42103751)
'British Wikipedian, Stuart Marshall, made the final ruling in September, decisively supporting the [Gaza genocide] article’s inclusion. “Based on the strength of the arguments … and it’s not close … I discarded the argument that scholars haven’t reached a conclusion on whether the Gaza genocide is really taking place”, Marshall wrote in his decision. “The matter remains contested, but there’s a metric truckload of scholarly sources linked in this discussion that show a clear predominance of academics who say that it is.”'

From this, maybe it is clearer (but not shorter) to say: ‘It’s not close’ - The inclusion of "Gaza genocide" to Wikipedia's "List of genocides" ends editorial debate

Alt phrasing: Wikipedia's editorial debate ends with the inclusion of "Gaza genocide" to "List of genocides" page

(I'm trying to not repeat "Wikipedia" several times.)

Somewhat related Wikipedia article regarding parsing sentences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence

Re:'It's not close' – Israel committing genocide concludes W... by raxxorraxor on Monday November 11, 2024 @05:31AM (#42106036)
To me the scholarly perspective is that antisemitism framed the result and academics certainly are not exempt here.

It is utterly ridiculous to frame the war Israel did not start as a genocide or attempt at genocide.

There is a difference in the behavior in the West Bank, but only if you widen the definition of genocide as well, which I would not recommend.

There certainly is no consensus among "experts" here. There are only interests and some of those have problems with Jews. Nothing new and a bad day for Wikipedia, which already had problems with any politicized content in the first place.