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Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by satvikpendem on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:39PM (#42090677)
I am not sure you should be relying on an LLM as any indication of anything...

More seriously, considering something as being alive in order to engineer them better does not necessarily change the fact of them actually being alive or not, in my opinion.

Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by dekhn on Friday November 08, 2024 @05:47PM (#42091085)
If LLMs work the way I understand them to, they are trained on large corpora which contain a statistical preponderance of statements which are consistent with the current scientific mainstream, so it may not be completely crazy to try doing this; you'd get the scientific mainstream explanation, and possibly a few alternative hypotheses if they had enough literature support.
Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by govg on Friday November 08, 2024 @07:54PM (#42091708)
Why would it be consistent with the scientific mainstream? Unless there's evidence that scientific reports and material are specifically up-weighted during training and prioritised somehow, whatever an LLM says will be only consistent with its training material, which could have any proportion of fake articles, Reddit posts, Quora responses, encyclopedia pages and joke blogs
Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by satvikpendem on Friday November 08, 2024 @08:01PM (#42091745)
You don't know what the training data is and what each category's weights are, so how can you assume that?
Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by dekhn on Friday November 08, 2024 @08:07PM (#42091776)
Most use common crawl, and most seem to upweight the scientific publication part of it (from what I gather speaking to folks who train LLM models).
Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by opello on Friday November 08, 2024 @06:42PM (#42091347)
> which are consistent with the current scientific mainstream

This seems to require a high amount of curation of training inputs, but I haven't done real digging into it, just going off the more casual "all of stackoverflow" or "all of reddit" type comments frequently thrown around. But if there is such a curation I'd agree, I just don't think there is that curation.

Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by Jerrrry on Friday November 08, 2024 @10:41PM (#42092386)
You are literally saying this novel thing is wrong because this thing that can't say novel things says the thing that's not novel is not novel.