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Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by hshshshshsh on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:11PM (#42090510)
Okay. I can see that in day to day life. People confusing sentences with actual knowing. Like labeling something a tree and thinking you know what a tree is because you know it's a "tree".

But how did anyone verify there is an underlying reality outside consciousness? It's just an assumption right?

Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by timschmidt on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:16PM (#42090537)
> But how did anyone verify there is an underlying reality outside consciousness?

It's the stuff which continues existing when we stop believing in it.

Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by dekhn on Friday November 08, 2024 @05:01PM (#42090816)
Yes, it's taken on faith by scientists that we live in an objective universe with cold hard reality outside our consciousness. It seems like a reasonable assumption, consistent with all our observations. It seems not unreasonable to assume that in the early universe there was nothing living, then at some point, through random chance, the first living things became alive (possibly from some non-alive replicators), and then later, the first living things with consciousness came to be. Again, all of this is consistent with our observations, but effectively taken on faith/treated as an assumption.