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Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by hurpdurpdurp on Friday November 08, 2024 @02:46PM (#42089900)
I know nothing about biology, pardon my ignorance. From the article it sounds like mitochondria were a separate organism that has perhaps simplified through specialization and is currently on the boundary of being an independent life form. It also sounds like there are other structures (golgi apparatus are mentioned?) which are not on the bubble. Are we sure that there is not an arrow of time here, where once those other structures were also semi-independent and have become less so?

More broadly, it leads me to wonder whether cellular life might eventually/might have at some point specialize towards hosting novel endosymbioses.

Either scenario, assuming what I'm saying isn't just total nonsense, would seem to make the state of mitochondria less of a one-off event and more of the instance of that event we are around at the right time to observe.

Re:Mitochondria Are Alive by liyamchitayat on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:44PM (#42090705)
Hi! thanks for taking time to read :)

Those other membrane bubbles inside out cells don't have any of the machines we expect to be associated with cellular life- but you never actually know!

Also, this is def not a 1-off, and happened many times, including chloroplasts in this new nitroplast we found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroplast