After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant off shelves

Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by pdonis on Friday November 08, 2024 @12:41AM (#42084481)

> you don't just need a decent government ID; it needs to be from the state you're purchasing the Sudafed from

The FDA rule on this [1] doesn't appear to be quite that strict: it says the ID can be "a photo identification card issued by the State or the Federal Government or a document that is considered acceptable by the seller". It doesn't explicitly say it has to be from the same state as the one in which you are buying the medication, and it leaves the seller some latitude in what to accept.

Possibly some states have more restrictive rules. Or particular sellers might be more leery about what they are willing to accept.

[1] https://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-drug-class/legal-requi...

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by _moof on Friday November 08, 2024 @02:22AM (#42084937)

The FDA rule doesn't restrict the IDs but the phrase "that is considered acceptable by the seller" lets the pharmacy put any restrictions in place they want. They can tell you it has to be hot pink and glow-in-the-dark and you've got no choice but to deal with it.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by arcticbull on Friday November 08, 2024 @02:37AM (#42085012)

While true as long as they're in compliance with the law, wouldn't they want to sell all the Sudafed they can? They can deny service to anyone for pretty much any reason. No shirt, no shoes, no Sudafed or anything else. So yeah, but in reality it isn't aligned with their interests and if they don't want to serve you they can always find a different justification.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by safety1st on Friday November 08, 2024 @02:53AM (#42085083)

Maybe they want that, maybe they don't. Retail drug stores in the US are an oligopoly, that industry may not be a monopoly (yet) but they don't function under perfect competition. Maybe if you're the management or the shareholders of a retail drug chain you're just kind of shrugging your shoulders and working on the next merger at this point since the fewer competitors you have, the less hard you have to work for the customer's dollar.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by jkaplowitz on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:58AM (#42085668)

The “acceptable by the seller” wording only applies if the ID is not issued by “the State” or “the Federal Government”. Wouldn’t the latter option mean that a US passport, a green card, a Global Entry card, or a NEXUS card must be accepted as suitable ID by any seller in any state? All of those are issued by the feds.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by potato3732842 on Friday November 08, 2024 @06:07AM (#42085928)

And the pharmacy has the state regulators breathing down their neck so being super uptight about it is the obvious choice.

Of course all of this is stupid in a world where the real junkies use fentanyl and there's other easy ways to make meth.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by vrc on Friday November 08, 2024 @07:25AM (#42086323)

States like MA legally only accept MA IDs and federal govt IDs for age verification. That’s why a lot of bars and packies will turn people away or ask for additional proof like CC’s. You’re more likely to be held liable for misconduct if the license you accepted is out of state.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by jkaplowitz on Friday November 08, 2024 @04:59AM (#42085675)

Any seller in any state should have to accept a federally issued ID such as a US passport, no?

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by vrc on Friday November 08, 2024 @07:25AM (#42086328)

Yes but then you’d have to carry that for domestic travel.

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Re:After decades, FDA moves to pull ineffective decongestant... by jkaplowitz on Friday November 08, 2024 @09:25PM (#42092114)

The wallet-sized passport card is a great solution for that case then. It’s much cheaper than the regular passport book (and you are allowed to have both at once), doesn’t invalidate your regular passport book if it gets lost or stolen, and is also usable to go between the US and Canada by land or sea without having to bring the passport book with you. For people with a Global Entry or NEXUS card, that card also works for every case where the passport card does (and more).

Green card holders also have a convenient wallet size for their green card, and they’re legally required to carry it with them at all times while in the US anyway.

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