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Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by cool_dude85 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:43PM (#42071911)
What's an "enemy state"? We're not at war with China.
Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by dghlsakjg on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:03PM (#42072095)
China is known to be actively spying and meddling in Canadian domestic politics in ways that are not legal or the normal diplomatic channels.

Describing them as an enemy might be too far, but you certainly wouldn’t describe China as a friend.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by cool_dude85 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:21PM (#42072224)
All fair complaints, but are those the standards you want to set for "banning any state-owned media from that country"? We're not enemies but I wouldn't call them our friends?
Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by dghlsakjg on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:57PM (#42072892)
Canada didn’t ban non state-owned media. It didn’t even ban any media. TikTok is still allowed, RT is still accessible, private news sources, foreign annd domestic, exist at all levels through Canada.

We banned a single corporate entity from operating offices inside the country in response to credible intelligence that those offices pose a national security threat. That corporate entity is directly linked with an adversarial government with active election subversion campaigns.

Is there some reason you are twisting the actual circumstances around this?

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by epolanski on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:27PM (#42072265)
When I read comments like yours I can't but think that we are being brainwashed.

The biggest foreign meddler and spy in Canada is the southern neighbor.

We know for a fact through leaks that US has put all Canadians under mass surveillance both in communication and movement (like the wifi hacking at airports leaked by Snowden) since more than a decade, or the 2023 Pentagon leaks that were quickly scolded as "but they were trying to find Russian activity in Canada", and don't forget the AT&T whistleblower which also exposed mass surveillance on Canadians by US intelligence.

And yet..nobody cares..even though we know for a fact it happens, we don't care let alone call the US an enemy.

So, what is the difference? The media and politicians calling 24/7 China your enemy (something nobody would've done before 2018/2017), but ignoring or pretending that the real spy of all spies which hacks and spies on all of its allies, even the personal phone of the German chancellor is cool.

I find those double standards not only mind blowing, but dangerous.

We're letting the White House to dictate globally who can play by the rules and who is an exception.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by dghlsakjg on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:34PM (#42073103)
I didn’t say a thing about the US, nor did I imply support for it. I don’t like what the US is doing.

On the other hand pretending that the CCP and the US are meddling at the same level or with the same consequences, or that the CSIS isn’t in on half of what the US is doing is also silly.

I can condemn China and recognize that they pose a serious threat, while also condemning the US and recognizing that the threat is different.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:35PM (#42072734)
<< When I read comments like yours I can't but think that we are being brainwashed.

Sadly, and I think I called that out few years ago, there was a notable turn in US foreign policy. In effect, it means establishment expects actual confrontation with China. This, naturally, means uptick in anti-China propaganda. It is a difficult position to take now in a pragmatic way given events in Ukraine and Israel, but that is clearly the direction. Hence, comments like those of OP.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by blitzar on Thursday November 07, 2024 @07:26AM (#42076032)
> China is known to be actively spying and meddling in Canadian domestic politics

Using this definition other enemies or certainly not friends of Canada include; Russia, Mexico, UK, Europe and USA.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by dralley on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:47PM (#42071941)
They're conducting active cyberattacks on our infrastructure and allying themselves with states (Russia, North Korea) that are actively at war with our friends.

We're not "at war" but that doesn't mean much.

Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by cool_dude85 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:02PM (#42072085)
So you want the capacity to ban state-owned, or even partially state-owned, media from any country who has "allied" with a country actively at war with "our friends"? All of BRICS, anyone part of the BRI, just as the tip of the iceberg?
Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by dralley on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:36PM (#42073115)
When was the last time Brazil or India did something comparable to what's currently going on in the South China Sea.
Re:Trudeau government bans TikTok from operating in Canada by kortilla on Thursday November 07, 2024 @03:19AM (#42074691)
We’re not at war with Russia or Iran either. That’s a pointless line in the sand to draw