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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by chipdart on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:46PM (#42069969)
> Closing border, halting illegal immigration, mass deportations - these are massively net positive for US citizens who are uneducated and poor. Migrates are competing with them for jobs, housing, social services, all resources.

If that was really the case how come you just elected the very same guy who killed the border deal?

> Ending forever wars will allow shifting of budget priorities. A reduction of just 10-15% of defense and intelligence budgets and cutting funding to Israel and Ukraine can pay for childcare for every child in the US easily.

There is no "funding to Israel and Ukraine". For Ukraine there's transfer of outdated weapon systems reaching the end of life and already obsolete, which in turn is creating jobs in the US to restock and replenish the US's arsenal. If anything, you're seeing money go into the US defense industry which ends up being the US's take on welfare and social security program with all the pork programs.

Whoever fooled you into believing people are handing over cash to Ukraine, fooled you very well.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by alchemist1e9 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:51PM (#42070041)
The border deal provided amnesty that is clearly NOT in the interests of uneducated and poor citizens.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by chipdart on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:05PM (#42070196)
> The border deal provided amnesty that is clearly NOT in the interests of uneducated and poor citizens.

You should inform yourself about the bipartisan border bill that Trump killed at the last moment. The "amnesty" thing only exists as a propaganda talking point. The bill tightened up requirements for asylum and imposed automatic deportation rules.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by dgfitz on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:48PM (#42070776)
There is a link in this thread that I'll never find that refutes your point. It quotes the bill even.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by chipdart on Thursday November 07, 2024 @01:45AM (#42074118)
> There is a link in this thread that I'll never find that refutes your point. It quotes the bill even.

There isn't. Go read the bill.

Hell, the bill was co-authored by republicans, and even approved by some republicans after Trump told them to sit.

Who falls for this bullshit talking point?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by dgfitz on Thursday November 07, 2024 @04:53PM (#42081501)
I tried to find it, maybe it was another thread.

In any event, I'm not saying I agree with trump that the bill should have been squashed. It just had a lot of provisions and exceptions that one could take umbrage with, if read impartially, which right now probably is a bit too tricky for half the country.

I didn't vote for the guy, I don't like the guy. I find it to be a fascinating mental exercise to hold two opposing ideas in my head without accepting or denying either. I think someone smart said that once, long time ago.

Emotion clouds judgement.