Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:33AM
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This doesn't paint an accurate picture of socialized healthcare either.
If you go east and look at Japan[0] which also has socialized healthcare the quality of healthcare there is very good
[0]: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/9789264225817-5-en.p...
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by bluecalm on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:07AM
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Yeah and in some countries with private insurance healthcare is good as well (Switzerland). It's just not about public vs private. It's about sensible regulation so services can be delivered cheaper and cartels/monopolies are curtailed.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @12:52PM
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I agree. The only model we have for this in the US currently is Medicare. It’s the only version of universal healthcare we have and would be the most obvious way to implement it
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by Workaccount2 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:01AM
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Japan is an outlier in most societal comparisons because they have a unique trait called "homogeneous monoculture with a strong adherence"
You end up with cool things like high trust, and shitty things like intense racism.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:18AM
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Japan isn't an outlier, there are other countries with universal healthcare that are also high functioning, like Canada (Ranked 7th in public health and 5th in quality of life), Norway, Switzerland, Finland, Denmark, Germany, Sweden.
Not to mention if it was on the median so bad for citizens you'd see more broad support for repealing it in countries where it is supposedly isn't working, but that isn't really happening either.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by bluecalm on Thursday November 07, 2024 @12:25AM
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Switzerland doesn't have universal healthcare. It has heavily regulated private insurance market.
Private insurance is not the reason healthcare is expensive in US. The reason is that services and drugs are too expensive because of collusion, lack of sensible regulation and lack of competition.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by dukeyukey on Thursday November 07, 2024 @07:27AM
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Private insurance and universal healthcare aren't mutually exclusive. Even the poorest Swiss get healthcare via subsidised basic plans.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by Workaccount2 on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:50AM
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The poorest in the US get free healthcare too (Medicaid). Not even subsidized. Just free.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by zeroonetwothree on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @12:40PM
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Status quo bias is powerful
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency
by themaninthedark on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:27PM
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Right but you also have everyone pay for health insurance in Japan. If you don't pay of it and suddenly decide that you want it, you have to pay the back owed portion as well before it is applied.
That is not the case - as mentioned even in pretty serious cases you might need to wait 1 year or more for something that should be done ASAP, on top of that the quality of the doctors isn't the best. This is especially bad for well-off people (as in middle class) as you pay e.g. 500-1000 USD a month and can't even get a basic check-up.