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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:05AM (#42060827)
> Seriously, what are you guys thinking here?

Okay, I'm in the US and will try to explain.

> As a European

Yup, the US is at least different!

> an arguably fascist agenda

> extreme right wing candiate

US politics can be tough fighting, lots of lying, deception, anxiety creation, violent demonstrations, assassinations, emotional appeals, media definitely biased and pumping out paid for propaganda, big influence from special interests (e.g., want money from the central government), lots of money buying and selling, e.g., as I recall, the Democrat Party spent ballpark $1.6 billion on ads -- the rich people giving that money want a return on their investment.

In the US, Trump is a moderate, i.e., "all the traffic is in the middle of the road".

The US middle of the road: Free enterprise, entrepreneurs should be free to be successful in business, often based on a lot of private investment capital (money) but sometimes based on just two guys in a rented garage or one guy in college with a Web site or some guy with a simple Web site selling books and records. Curiously, it was the US that did that, for the US and now the whole world. People should make their own way financially, etc. If people genuinely need help, then there, in various forms, is a social safety net with some help but not enough for a good life or everything. Real socialism where the government is Big Daddy that everyone can count on for everything in life is left and not widely accepted. A guaranteed minimum income is not quite here yet. There is still some question how much the government will supply in free health care and education. Can spend $100,000+ a year on college, the main point is who you meet, not what you learn. For learning there are plenty of cheap colleges and universities where can learn as much as want as there is known now; really, can go from first year in college to PhD., MD, LLB all for free if just are a really good student. In simple terms, in the US no really good student is short on education due to lack of money.

And in the US, if need medical care, a REAL need, and can't pay, then there is ..., and also ..., and, don't tell anyone, ....

US politics and media throw around "fascism" essentially only as an insult for people who don't understand Germany in the 1930s or what real fascism was. It is ironic that someone from Europe needs someone from the US to explain "fascism". The fascism insult is to lead to a Hitler insult, wildly far from the truth. Europe DOES actually, deeply, correctly remember Hitler? Right????

In simple terms, fascism has the government have much more power, especially over the economy, including industry and business, than Trump wants or used in his first term as POTUS.

Uh, fascism needs a LOT of power in the government; in the US mostly people don't trust government and don't want government to have that much power. The standard joke is

"We are from the government, and we are here to help."

So, a charge of fascism is a lie to get votes from people afraid of government power. Yes, in his first term, Trump had a lot of power, and now has it again. But, really, the US left wants more power, in total, than Trump or the US center or right. In particular, if listen to what Kamala really said, she wants nearly all revenue (and effectively ownership) to flow to DC (District of Columbia, seat of the central government) and then returned in various government programs to people and selected businesses, e.g., the $93 trillion for whatever; Kamala wanted such in principle (like some sophomore art major college women with an all-night bull session with plenty of beer and about politics and society) but had no meaningful details for implementation.

> a convicted felon, rapist, and probable russian intelligence asset.

All 100% junk information generated and spread as political mud wrestling:

In no meaningful sense is Trump a "convicted felon". Parts of the US judicial system went after Trump to have some people BELIEVE he was a felon. It was political propaganda, all lies for a political purpose, with the eager complicity of parts of the media, to damage Trump's reputation and have stories and narratives to get eyeballs and ad revenue. The crime was from the prosecutors and judges, not Trump. But there the judicial system's bite had no teeth: All the cases are delayed for various reasons and, now that the election is over, have served their propaganda purpose and will disappear via various actions. It was all cooked up, made up, kangaroo court, dirty politics, lawfare, election interference. Apparently the US legal system is resisting just throwing out all the cases based just on laughter over the absurdities and wants to pretend to have actual legal deliberation but is being careful never actually to convict or jail Trump or have him pay some $500 million fine.

There is no meaningful evidence that Trump is a "rapist". Again, that's propaganda.

> probable russian intelligence asset

Nonsense. Cooked up, made up, fake, contrived nonsense by Hillary Clinton and others to convince some naive people. The complicit, biased media got a lot of shocking headlines, eyeballs, and ad revenue.

The US Constitution has its First Amendment, "freedom of speech". So, people get to speak nearly anything, including lies and propaganda, and do. It's up to the listeners to filter the truth from the rest.

> extreme right wing candiate

No good evidence. Not Trump. Just look at his statements and record -- he's solidly in the middle of the road. Ukraine? It's partially about NATO, will Ukraine belong to NATO? Get help from NATO? The far right has Cheney, John Bolton, and others who never wanted to pass up another opportunity for a war, e.g., for Ike's Military/Industrial Complex, war profiteers, one world, US "New American Century", police the world people.

> Please explain.

Okay, just did that!

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by selimthegrim on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:56AM (#42061548)
>In simple terms, in the US no really good student is short on education due to lack of money.

In the south, at least this is flat wrong

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:37AM (#42062080)
In the south, this is flat right, Memphis State University, University of Tennessee.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by selimthegrim on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:22AM (#42062693)
I am happy to give you a tour of Louisiana.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:19AM (#42063643)
Get book on high school algebra, plane geometry, trigonometry, solid geometry, and calulus. Study all of them. Then take tests, e.g., SAT, to confirm excellence. After high school, keep living at home, and get a job, even just mowing grass. Take the money and get a bus ticket to one of the midwestern states and apply to a college, not a university, there. Being a good student with good SAT scores, should be able to get a scholarship with $0 tuition. Or work hard, make all As, and then ask for a scholarship, use a work-study program, etc. Go to the available offices and see what programs they have for low or no cost schooling. Then with a high GPA, apply to grad school -- $0, zip, zilch tuition. Get a Masters in something. Let the Masters confirm excellence and f'get about the quality of the high school or even the college.

A niece got PBK at Indiana University, went to Harvard Law, got first job at Cravath, Swaine, & Moore. Left for an MD, and has been practicing since then. Suspect she spent very little on tuition.

As a first grad student in math at Indiana University, I got paid for teaching, had a nice single dorm room, actually lived well, and saved some money.

There are a lot of buttons to push, strings to pull, to get low cost or free college, then free through Ph.D. Being a good student, good SAT scores, already know calculus well, all can help.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by selimthegrim on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:42PM (#42069029)
I had to teach a doctor’s daughter from Alexandria who showed up to my physics recitation not knowing what a function was, despite having taken AP calculus AB. And how did this happen in the public schools in Alexandria? Because the gym teacher taught it and everyone got 1s. Furthermore, the school board gets bonuses for kids taking AP tests and teaching gifted classes and then hands the teaching jobs out to their sycophant favorite teachers
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:01PM (#42070168)
Starting with first algebra through my applied math Ph.D., nearly everything important that I learned I got heavily from independent study. (1) Loved plane geometry. Slept in class then worked ALL the more difficult supplementary exercises. (2) For my first year of college, went to a cheap state school, partly because I could walk to it. They put me in a math class beneath what I'd had in high school and would not let me take first calculus. For their class, a girl I knew also in the class told me when the tests were, and I showed up for them. For calculus, I got a copy of the book they were using, not a bad book, and started in and did well covering the first year. For my sophomore year, transfered to a fancy college, took an oral exam on first calculus, then got into their second year, did well, and was caught up. (3) Linear algebra? Sure, went through Halmos carefully word for word. About a fine point, wrote a letter to Halmos and got a nice answer. Also worked through Nering's book -- Nering was a student of Artin at Princeton. Later did a lot in linear algebra applications, e.g., in statistics, numerical issues, etc. (4) In grad school, got pushed into their course in 'advanced linear algebra'. When the course got to the polar decomposition, I blurted out in class "That's my favorite theorem!". Blew away everyone else in the class. Partly intimidated the prof. In grad school took an advanced applied math course then in the summer went over the class notes word by word. Wrote the prof a letter improving on one of his theorems. Back in class, took a 'reading course', and from the study in the summer saw a problem and solved it with some surprising math, two weeks. Later published it -- so, technically it was a dissertation.

Point: Self study can work well. Obviously: Once a prof reading research papers, nearly always have to use self study, and the papers are generally much less polished than good textbooks.

So, I recommended to students short on money just to do some self teaching and show up, demonstrate what learned, and ask for a scholarship.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by stillold on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:42AM (#42061348)
Now try and add some evidence?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:31AM (#42061992)
Right. In the US, on politics and the issues, getting the information and "evidence" is a really big problem.

I have and/or have seen good evidence for all that I mentioned, but such evidence is NOT wanted by or common in the media which means that I have no well written, comprehensive, single reference to give.

Uh, YOU try: Write a document with good evidence, details, quotes, video clips, etc., and see how much interest the US MSM (mainstream media) has in publishing it!!! I predict you will regard your effort, no matter how carefully done, as a waste of time.

E.g., so far I've never seen even one credible graph over, say, the last 16 years, of, say, the US CPI (consumer price index). Same for budget deficits, spending bills, balance of foreign exchange, Fed loans, spending on the war in Ukraine (was there actually ANY spending or did we, instead, actually just ship war supplies produced in the US?) -- the actual details are absurdly messy, sloppy, missing, etc.

Clearly, bluntly the details do not SELL -- won't get a big audience.

To give good evidence here would exceed by several times the 10,000 bytes or so limit that Hacker News seems to have on a single post.

US media credibility? Here is evidence of biased, cooked up, gang up, pile on, organized mob attack from 2017:

     https://youtu.be/f1ab6uxg908
With that example, there is less than zero credibility. So, for your "evidence", don't expect that from the US media.

I wish, profoundly wish, have posted many times on social media, that the US news media should provide JUST such evidence, at least up to common standards of high school term papers. All that is no more than a spit into the wind -- the media does NOT want to expend bytes for such writing, documentation, evidence, etc.

So, here I did all I can do to respond to the question I quoted, apparently, from a European. Agree or not with what I wrote, but it is the best I can do under the circumstances. The question from Europe are not very deep; so I gave answers of similar depth. The speeches in the election were not very deep. The Trump statements at the economic clubs in Chicago and Detroit were deeper.

That's my explanation, best I can do, take it or leave it.

But, really for an accusation of "Nazi", etc. the "burden of proof is on the accuser". The rape? He said, she said. There in the dressing room of the department store, did she scream and get some witnesses? Nazi? Just what is the evidence that Trump has done anything like the Nazi stuff Hitler did? Felon? He has never gotten a sentence -- if he does, then he can appeal, win the appeal, and show that he is NOT a "convicted felon". So, no sentence. The papers case, the J6 case, the Georgia case, the "hush money" case -- all are falling apart due to appeals, etc. They are NOT legal cases but just efforts to misuse the legal system to have others, as here, believe he is a felon. But with the appeals, e.g., even to the SCOTUS, ALL of the cases are falling apart. My view is that the wrong here is from low level parts of the US legal system and not from Trump.

And where are the arguments about 10+ million illegal immigrants, the inflation, the attacks on US fossil fuel energy, the Ukraine war, the Gaza war, the Lebanon war, the hundreds of missiles from Iran, the promotion of biological men in women's sports, the lies about abortion (Trump sent the issue back to the states to decide), the bans on gas powered cars and trucks, etc.?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by stillold on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:27PM (#42066890)
Traditional media generally requires having three different independent sources to publish.

You have failed to provide one.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by graycat on Thursday November 07, 2024 @09:25AM (#42076886)
What???? I'm posting on a case of social media and am not a "publisher" and am not writing a column for a "publisher".

Just what was I supposed to do but "failed" at?