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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ben_w on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:52AM (#42060647)
While I'd like that to be an accurate description of why the Tory party lost, my understanding is that the migration topic was basically the only thing the Tories did that continued to resonate with voters, and what actually lost them was a continuing series of incompetent leaders, starting with Cameron (who didn't realise the mic was still hot immediately after resigning). Nobody (of any party) liked May, Johnson got away with pleasing lies until Partygate, Truss was a forgettable joke, and Sunak was basically Jim Hacker.

IMO the only reason the Tories didn't lose sooner was that the Labour party was also stuck with Corbyn.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by flir on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:27AM (#42061149)
They lost the anti-immigration vote to Reform. That shows, to me, that the voters that cared about that topic could see the difference between their rhetoric and their actions.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by vidarh on Thursday November 07, 2024 @02:34AM (#42074439)
Reform gutted the Tory party largely on anger over immigration the Tory party itself whipped up.

Their incredibly incompetent string of PMs didn't help, but without Reform spoiling, they'd at least still have had a shot.

Note how Labour didn't win this as much as the Tories lost it: Starmer got fewer votes than Corbyn. Starmer failed to attract more voters despite running against the most ridiculed government in modern British history. People didn't want Starmer, they wanted not-Tories, and on the right that meant voters fleeing to the anti immigrant Reform.