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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mattgperry on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:56AM (#42059880)
But it isn't wrong, is it? Democracy elected Hitler, Hitler ended democracy in Germany. I'm not saying that is going to happen here, but your flippant comeback to a valid point is not a rebuttal.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by lobsterthief on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:16AM (#42060162)
This guy isn’t interested in having a real conversation with you btw
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by aydyn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:39AM (#42063947)
You could try better arguments?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by lobsterthief on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:43PM (#42069929)
I wasn’t even talking with you, just observing your comments with others
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Tainnor on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:39AM (#42060462)
I wish people didn't use the Hitler comparison because it always derails discussion (almost everyone is better than Hitler, even Trump). There are however enough other cases throughout history of people being elected and then becoming dictators.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by epakai on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:01AM (#42061609)
It is the exact right comparison though. Conservatives failed to maintain power on their ideals. The weak party clings to power, and propels a populist into power. He scapegoats immigrants, and liberal ideas for the general malaise. The only saving grace is that he is old, and not genocidal.

People wouldn't be as familiar with the outcome if we were to discuss those other dictators. I'm certainly unaware of their parallels.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by eterps on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:51AM (#42060625)
Interesting point.

Actually there are more interesting parallels to be found between Trump and Mussolini:

- Both displayed arrogant ignorance and avoided in-depth conversations

- Shared a tendency to appear knowledgeable rather than actually being knowledgeable

- Demonstrated hostility toward the press

- Appointed family members to high government positions

- Exhibiting thin-skinned reactions to criticism

- Showing contempt for experts and professionals

- Took credit for successes while blaming others for failures

- Working with existing nationalist movements

- Attacking democratic institutions as "enemies of the people"

But I don't think that would not derail the discussion. Pretty much any comparison with a dictator leads to painful discussion.

The question is, how would it even be possible to address this in a constructive way. I honestly don't know.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Tainnor on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:55AM (#42060685)
> But I don't think that would not derail the discussion. Pretty much any comparison with a dictator leads to painful discussion.

Yes, but when the dictator is also someone who orchestrated the holocaust, the discussion becomes all about how Trump doesn't literally hate Jews etc.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by aydyn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:08AM (#42060042)
yeah its wrong as hell, but here we go again analogizing the situation to nazis. How did that work out for you this time?

My response is flippant because you dont actually have a good point. You wrap it up in 10 cents words and nice prose, but its still empty.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:38AM (#42060442)
Guy said he'd be dictator on day one and that sometimes it's okay to suspend the constitution. Some of us are concerned about what things he said might be true.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by HeatrayEnjoyer on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:32AM (#42061224)
"When people tell you who they are, believe them."
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by aydyn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:27PM (#42070503)
Fact check: False.

It was clearly a joke, as in taking the first day of office to clean up the perceived mistakes of his predecessor. Do you know any dictators who only planned to rule for one day?

And also, are you still confused why Americans wholeheartedly rejected this BS?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:40PM (#42070674)
How are you so confident that it is a joke? I'm not that confused about why people give him a pass on stuff like this, but that doesn't mean I like it.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by eterps on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:11AM (#42060094)
Huh?? But how is he wrong?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by jmdots on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:42AM (#42060504)
Edited: nevermind.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Dalewyn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:57AM (#42060715)
Read about Godwin's Law here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw

In a nutshell, you automatically lose any argument if you have to invoke Hitler or the Nazis.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by aydyn on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:36AM (#42063909)
seems like liberals collectively forgot about it