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Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by nickff on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @04:34PM (#42055376)
The Affordable Care Act came with a lot of baggage (as similar plans had been advocated for decades by various proponents), and President Obama was arrogant and dismissive of any need for Republican buy-in (telling them they could take a back seat). CHIPS seems much less divisive, though it seems stalled (at least based on recent statements by Intel and other CEOs).
Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by xenadu02 on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @05:52PM (#42055898)
> The Affordable Care Act came with a lot of baggage

Fake manufactured baggage. Even if you think the ACA was a terrible idea and bad policy the fact is Republicans opposed it entirely out of spite and worked to repeal parts of it for the same reason. It had nothing to do with a rational approach to public policy.

The modern conservative movement has only two policies: no regulation (You Can't Tell Me What to Do Dad) and no taxes (Screw You, I Got Mine). Solving problems often requires regulation and money. Hence Republicans are incapable of solving most kinds of problems. A third leg, if one exists, is spitefully destroying anything that might demonstrate the government can do anything good or of value.

Anti-free market policies? Excellent because it reduces regulation. Hurt American competitiveness? Who cares, as long as I don't have to pay taxes.

Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by nickff on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @06:30PM (#42056131)
I’m not debating whether the ACA was good policy; are you addressing anything in my post?

I would agree that all long-term political baggage is ‘fake’ and ‘manufactured’ in that it’s human-created.

Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by throw0101d on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @04:39PM (#42055411)
> […] and President Obama was arrogant and dismissive of any need for Republican buy-in (telling them they could take a back seat).

That is not accurate:

> Not only were Republican senators deeply involved in the process up until its conclusion, but it's a cinch that the ACA might have become law months earlier if the Democrats, hoping for a bipartisan bill, hadn't spent enormous time and effort wooing GOP senators — only to find themselves gulled by false promises of cooperation. And unlike Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's semi-secret proceedings that involved only a handful of trusted colleagues, Obamacare, until the very end of the process, was open to public scrutiny.

* https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/01/set-health...

Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by nickff on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @06:27PM (#42056107)
President Obama literally said the Republicans had to sit in the back seat: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4748375/user-clip-obama-tells...
Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by Sabinus on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @06:44PM (#42056211)
"If you want, you can ride with us, but you gotta sit in the back seat."

As in, "we have a majority so we drive the political clown-car. "

Re:U.S. Chip Revival Plan Chooses Sites by throw0101d on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @08:40PM (#42056691)
Entire transcript of the clip:

> We feel a tap on our shoulder and we look back, and who is it? It's the Republicans. And they say "Huh, excuse me, we'd like the keys back." And we have to tell them "I'm sorry, you can't have the keys back if you don't know how to drive". If you want you can ride with us but you have to ride in the back seat.

Further context: Oct. 22, 2010, in Las Vegas on behalf of Sen. Harry Reid's re-election campaign.

As a sibling comment notes: the Democrats had the majority at the time and were in charge of setting the agenda ("had the keys").

Further, Obama was willing to give the GOP a (figurative) ride if they wanted and were heading in the same direction.