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Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by modeless on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:15PM (#42045591)
It does mention those reasons and others, however all those reasons directly contradict the article's next point "If all you care about is nutrient content, SPEED is the only factor that matters". Seems like all these other factors should matter too! Surely not every farm is equal in these respects...
Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by biot on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:30PM (#42045718)
> Seems like all these other factors should matter too!

The way I read it was that there are some minerals that are no longer there to begin with because they're simply not in the soil. For nutrients (like vitamin C) created as part of the growing process, speed is the only factor that matters.

So yes, it does matter but unless you have a way of knowing which farm(s) the produce came from and what their soil mineral content is, that's not something you can factor into your purchasing decision.

Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by ghostly_s on Monday November 04, 2024 @06:16PM (#42047051)
But you don't typically have any reliable info about how fresh produce is either?
Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by aziaziazi on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @06:14AM (#42050572)
Smell, look and touch. You can even taste in some cases.
Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by modeless on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @10:41AM (#42052327)
The article explicitly dismisses those as unreliable
Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by lm28469 on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @10:20AM (#42052165)
> The way I read it was that there are some minerals that are no longer there to begin with because they're simply not in the soil. For nutrients (like vitamin C) created as part of the growing process, speed is the only factor that matters.

That's exactly the problem, fertilisers don't necessarily fully replenish the soil in every single micro nutrient so if you cultivate corn on the same parcel for 60 years you might very well have completely depleted the soil of some of them

You can grow very nice fruits and veggies on NPK fertilisers alone without caring for any of the other nutrients, nobody buys tomatoes because they're nutritious, we buy them because they're big and red. And that's why most taste like water and have no nutritional values today

Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by hansonkd on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:23PM (#42045648)
> It does mention those reasons

whoops you're right, I somehow skipped that part.

I guess it is kind of weird article with contradicting points of view and the author could have communicated that improving soil quality and pairing it with speed to consumption is the best combination.

Re:Nutrient levels in retail grocery stores by hirako2000 on Monday November 04, 2024 @03:30PM (#42045714)
My read is that the author is taking the view of consumers. Not regulators and producers.