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Re:Electric vehicles now represent 19% of the passenger vehi... by FirmwareBurner on Monday November 04, 2024 @01:09AM (#42038954)
>plenty of electric motorcycles now

And who's buying them? All I hear is loud pipes everywhere which is probably why motorcycle lovers buy them in the first place.

>just not in the US where they're mostly leisure vehicles

How come the leisure vehicle argument doesn't also apply to ICE cars then?

Re:Electric vehicles now represent 19% of the passenger vehi... by Shawnj2 on Monday November 04, 2024 @01:16AM (#42038987)
As I said, China.

It doesn’t because 40 year old Samantha who buys a minivan to take her 3 kids to soccer practice would have nothing to do with cars or buying a car if she lived in a place where the fastest transportation option was literally anything other than driving. She (and by extension the average car buyer) is just buying whatever the minimum cost and maximum reliability product that lets her accomplish what she wants to, which is everything other than driving or cars. By contrast the motorcycle market in the US is basically all enthusiasts lol. The 20 year old car guys who like working on their old sports cars are such a small percent of the market they don’t really matter when it comes to EV’s being boring stopping electrification.

Re:Electric vehicles now represent 19% of the passenger vehi... by seanmcdirmid on Monday November 04, 2024 @01:16AM (#42038986)
Motorbikes aren’t used for day to day usage in the USA like they are in Southeast Asia and China. But cars in the USA are, so they aren’t in the same usage bucket.

Motorbikes have been mostly superseded by electric bikes in China. I’m sure the same thing will happen in Southeast Asia, but the last time I was there in 2016 it hadn’t happened yet.

Re:Electric vehicles now represent 19% of the passenger vehi... by FirmwareBurner on Monday November 04, 2024 @05:13AM (#42040147)
Motorcycles are definitely used for day to day in Europe where they're ICE and not electric.
Re:Electric vehicles now represent 19% of the passenger vehi... by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @01:44AM (#42049138)
Maybe in some countries. Definitely not in Switzerland when I lived there.