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Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by ForHackernews on Saturday November 02, 2024 @06:34PM (#42029701)
https://www.cpr.org/2024/10/08/vg-2024-how-your-vote-gets-co...

Colorado ballot envelopes already have a bar code - essentially your "serial number".

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because everyone who thinks there's widespread election fraud seems to not know anything about how elections work.

Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by EasyMark on Saturday November 02, 2024 @09:48PM (#42030628)
Virtually all the election deniers live in a sphere of unreality where they only listen to what their politicians/keepers tell them, they don't care about reality.
Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by akira2501 on Saturday November 02, 2024 @10:27PM (#42030783)
> who thinks there's widespread election fraud seems to not know anything about how elections work.

Does your knowledge imply the system is perfect? Is there more than one type of voter fraud? Do we mean just one or two particular federal elections or all elections at every level? What about internal party elections, have those all been extremely fair and above board lately?

There's obvious advantages to perpetrating this class of fraud. Historically we know this fraud has interfered in all types of elections at all levels. Why would this not continue to be a target?

I mean, even in your link, Step 1 includes mailing ballots in. Even recently we've seen the simple flaws in this insecure mechanism. How could you have such a level of confidence in this system? The fact the smart and well meaning people do is all the more reason to engage this subject more rigorously.

Perhaps a more generous interpretation to people making these claims is to understand that we are still not doing a good enough job at making our elections secure, easy, free and fair. For Hacker News this should easily be understood to be a technical challenge and one that the USA has yet again completely failed to succeed at.

Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by ForHackernews on Sunday November 03, 2024 @09:02AM (#42033106)
It's not a technical challenge, it's a sociological one. No amount of technical security features or published explanations will convince a group of people who have already decided they are being screwed by "the system".

I do agree that America is failing this test.

Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by gotoeleven on Sunday November 03, 2024 @12:14AM (#42031116)
Oh hey looks like I found one of the ballots sent to everyone in the state and filled it out and sent it back in.

It's literally that easy in Colorado.

Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by ytpete on Sunday November 03, 2024 @02:22AM (#42031623)
No it's not. Your signature would have to match the one on file.

Further, if the person the ballot rightfully belonged to actually wants to vote, they'll either request a new one or vote in person - either one of which would invalidate the earlier mailed ballot.

Re:Colorado scrambles to change voting-system passwords afte... by mulmen on Sunday November 03, 2024 @08:35PM (#42037632)
It’s not that easy and knowledge of how it works is one search away. Here’s a source that explains the process: https://www.cpr.org/2022/10/17/colorado-elections-ballot-cou...