Australia/Lord_Howe is the weirdest timezone

Re:Australia/Lord_Howe is the weirdest timezone by quesera on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @11:44PM (#42003291)

To clarify, it is well-established that December 25 is a highly unlikely date for the birth of Jesus.

Children and people who have only a superficial knowledge of Christianity might very well believe otherwise. But they are poorly-informed.

Arguments against include:

  a) Precise calendar dates are often fuzzy from that period, so the likelihood of knowing at all is very low.
  b) The mythology around the birth date does not match the seasonal expectations for late December (more likely springtime).
  c) Dec 25 was chosen in 336 AD, by church decree. Prior to that, there was no holiday nor even a strong claim of any specific date.
  d) Dec 25 was already a festival day for pagan celebrations of Saturn (Rome) and Mithra (Persia), which was likely a factor in the choice of date, to coincide with existing customs.

There are no substantial arguments in favor of December 25 being accurate.

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Re:Australia/Lord_Howe is the weirdest timezone by kelnos on Thursday October 31, 2024 @02:45AM (#42004088)

I don't think anyone is arguing that December 25 is the birth date of Jesus (assuming he existed), the argument is just that there are people who believe it is. You seem to think only children and people who don't know much about Christianity would believe that, but I assure you there are lots of Christian adults who don't know the history you (correctly) laid out.

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Re:Australia/Lord_Howe is the weirdest timezone by nerdponx on Thursday October 31, 2024 @03:31AM (#42004273)

The point is that the "birth date of Jesus" being set on December 25 came 350 years after January 1 was chosen to start the new year.

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Re:Australia/Lord_Howe is the weirdest timezone by tharkun__ on Thursday October 31, 2024 @02:01PM (#42009546)

No the point is that my parent said:

    I don't think anyone actually believes ...

when in fact, yes, people do actually believe this.

When this is pointed out, he explains why it can't be Dec 25th and that's all totally fine and correct but doesn't change the fact that yes indeed there are people that believe that, as well as lots of other things that can easily be disproved. It does not matter whether you can disprove it to us and others. These people that do believe it are in fact out there.

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