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Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by mrweasel on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @07:09AM (#41993639)
$100B is crazy, no one would buy OpenAI for $100B.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by rvnx on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @08:28AM (#41994124)
Perhaps Microsoft, so they can push the losses to the shareholders of Microsoft instead of their own balance sheet.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by pclmulqdq on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @08:34AM (#41994152)
Microsoft only gave them an exorbitant price because they were paying in Azure credits for GPUs. That's something like a 50% discount for Microsoft compared to giving them cash, and it also incentivizes OpenAI to continue using their stuff after the credits are burned through.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by stogot on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @05:22PM (#42000511)
I’ve heard Microsoft customers got burned by this. GPU availability and inference workloads is prioritized for OpenAI
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by sekai on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @08:31AM (#41994138)
They would have, 1.5 years back. Now there are other players in town.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by osigurdson on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @09:44AM (#41994652)
Why not? My ChatGPT to google usage is easily 10 to 1 at this point. How long will it be until everyone is basically doing the same thing as I am?
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by consteval on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @10:58AM (#41995680)
IMO this is because Google is kind of shit now, because of ChatGPT and LLM spam in general. It's hard to find information on Google that isn't shallow attention thievery. I mean, finding a recipe that doesn't start with "the year is 1974. I was just born" is near impossible these days.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by throwaway48476 on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @04:37PM (#41999973)
Google seo spam predates LLM's.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by consteval on Thursday October 31, 2024 @01:07PM (#42008854)
Right, but it's undeniable that LLM's are a core part, if not the most important part, of modern SEO spam. Particularly because they're much harder to spot.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by yifanl on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @09:59AM (#41994846)
That would only be meaningful if ChatGPT made as much money as Google did per query (as is, I believe they lose money on each, so they can hardly make it up in volume).
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by osigurdson on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @10:35AM (#41995411)
They could throw an ad platform on it in 5 minutes if they wanted to.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by yifanl on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @11:50AM (#41996477)
Which would slow down user uptake, I imagine.
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @10:44AM (#41995533)
LOL

It took Google 15 years to build an ad empire.

And they still have trouble filling ad slots on YouTube.

You think ChatGPT is just going to "turn on" $100B in online ad spending overnight?

That's not how it works.

Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by osigurdson on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @11:01AM (#41995714)
Why do you think it would take so long to throw an ad system on ChatGPT?

Personally, if I could buy OpenAI stock at 100B market cap right now, I would back up the truck.

Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by riffraff on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @05:37PM (#42000683)
adding ads is easy, adding ads that work is not.

Google can easily monetize a search for "dentist in $city" where your intent is to spend money, OpenAI would have to monetize "sum up this email" where money is not involved at all.

Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by osigurdson on Wednesday October 30, 2024 @10:41PM (#42002932)
If you have enough eyeballs on your pixels you can make money on ads. They are just deliberately choosing not to do it (Altman has made statements to this effect).
Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by riffraff on Friday November 01, 2024 @05:11AM (#42015218)
> If you have enough eyeballs on your pixels you can make money on ads.

sure, but Google makes _way_ more money than X or Reddit or Pornhub, not all eye gazes are the same.

Re:OpenAI builds first chip with Broadcom and TSMC, scales b... by ashvardanian on Thursday October 31, 2024 @09:48AM (#42006887)
I don't think it's fair. There many $100B+ companies with less IP, and much less access to talent. I don't even see people lining up to work for Apple or dreaming to work for Google anymore.